Received: from mail-qg0-f61.google.com ([209.85.192.61]:59025) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XElXy-0001cE-Ke for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:26 -0700 Received: by mail-qg0-f61.google.com with SMTP id q107sf325742qgd.6 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RvS62xULEQqFTd0eciIKkZzkkXstHb1eAyBAlJzNlhA=; b=zFXPmoUYTC6CJ6n0BjiMg/l78XqLQWpoFXPRs8KbD7WleFVP0Q6M6kMuoPgv+ocSer tIR+ri0qCUkQLcLNEHeAGY5S/DVoiSf21ClTicC1l4yOB7HgJ71F8zrIfsE0uTO6PevU x8TzrIUbDyTbrFj6gxBQgtuMmiNCGRhQtBxtA5BzwcBg015kba/X94AoQTsYvfNerzbm tiVyWTxJAWukhkZaHXc8DFFvrJI+QlUEnAZi2F7L2UWIbNeUh7R7s4dBoHtOBdvSK7oH Fne7VGGLPcqNtuxnU5QVBurOSM3hl+POeE8d45NFXUDPR+i6nkAD9zSXajRqxqwAZukw eJsg== X-Received: by 10.140.84.212 with SMTP id l78mr90227qgd.12.1407271280125; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.27.54 with SMTP id 51ls470641qgw.41.gmail; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.159.198 with SMTP id s46mr3171061yhk.17.1407271279369; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x233.google.com (mail-vc0-x233.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q8si112629vdg.0.2014.08.05.13.41.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233; Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hq11so2526667vcb.24 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.13.130 with SMTP id c2mr3946497vca.63.1407271279255; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.193.200 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:41:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:41:19 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] rupnu / jdini From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c32bbcb3e6e404ffe7e00e X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3233 --001a11c32bbcb3e6e404ffe7e00e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, J. Kurt Anderson wrote: > And for that first sentence, would this > > pa lo la.iuros. rupnu papicivo lo meryru'u > > achieve the intended meaning of "1 [of any given] euros is worth 1.34 [of > any given] American dollars"? I guess you mean "pa lo me la.iuros. cu rupnu papicivo lo meryru'u". But no, the x2 of rupnu has to be a number and in any case, (integer) outer quantifiers count true sentences, not euros. That says that when you try each of the referents of "lo me la iuros" in the x1 of "rupnu", once and only once you end up with a true sentence. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c32bbcb3e6e404ffe7e00e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:22 PM, J. Kurt Anderson = <marimbasfz@gm= ail.com> wrote:
And for that first sentence, would this

pa lo la.iuros. rupnu papicivo lo meryru'u

achieve the intended meaning of "1 [of any given] euros is worth 1.34 = [of any given] American dollars"?

I gu= ess you mean =C2=A0"pa lo me la.iuros. cu rupnu papicivo lo meryru'= ;u".
=C2=A0
But no, the x2 of rupnu has to be a number and in any= case, (integer) outer quantifiers count true sentences, not euros. That sa= ys that when you try each of the referents of "lo me la iuros" in= the x1 of "rupnu", once and only once you end up with a true sen= tence.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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