Received: from mail-pa0-f62.google.com ([209.85.220.62]:61631) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJkS6-00073x-Qc for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:59 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f62.google.com with SMTP id hz1sf1580989pad.17 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CjPSpDMIPA5Ul2tRPo/MMrxU7zaOwCfg+tPVD71XVJE=; b=BHiCwWS+Vzck8GU7eiiDIuZ1YmfZB22+No0mPHeST9yvbsHCTu6G6KzhUiHeHiocw7 l2EoSI6hcAesFGCQDCgxHs71AXelNQlZeP/HzYxT33Ae7Y+PNeBxA1jQCvaN1MZsKDMN k2egNuHY+tF/aWTv8OGOi8wizwiYEBm42ct095u/O7+OxnyzN83pTwxXPxF4TLmsI+Vd nrOwzFqTFlmh67nxiPUkVorrTlUd6PJfGnAAu4s5YE7gFyCS0CE3zWcdvl8I73KKQcYG ev0IHkvPD/a7581ypMJRroyC3GnQFa98qnGb1sQnx6QxatjQG3WsB68quJi43WMTlz7c 9CIA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=CjPSpDMIPA5Ul2tRPo/MMrxU7zaOwCfg+tPVD71XVJE=; b=Q16BViuATB0P0E2RjKik+DG4gkD9RzYpy+5pdAU+xRN1/LFt7AedlSyaQKhP7NUomm 0W6oBFlGuMviE/gh4q029BLx/T8My97cMA3y6cEe2R52b6mJP94OX5Fu8M7Cx4JHAGIc Sjrf716qvkShsSk/f/F+aWkm4i1D6aUnIr0jArTnBCdbvcTLOQYRElOMd3NTICiSHd4L Ebo99Ilt3PBAg+Zy7SIEIwzFmeLStEcr+y6oC27pNE8zfC1yiTn/Azik+cvEhDdNIibE YYASZVVZ/wUfhYru7KF8WJIoC2I4NISisLbPFmitaUF7vR/mZnwlcaoPrr6iAcQFGnC8 pwXQ== X-Received: by 10.140.31.73 with SMTP id e67mr8140qge.30.1408458706827; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.93.34 with SMTP id c31ls1998777qge.92.gmail; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.101.165 with SMTP id u34mr31249qge.15.1408458705953; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <53F35A35.8060708@gmx.de> References: <53F35A35.8060708@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Specifying repetition? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_113_713995800.1408458705653" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3792 ------=_Part_113_713995800.1408458705653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:07:51 AM UTC-4, selpa'i wrote: > > la .trans. cu cusku lo se lidne > > Is there a relative clause cmavo for specifying repetition? e.g. using > xa'a > > > > klama xa'a vo > > > > Which would basically mean "4 traversals", but more precise than a tanru > > e.g. `vo klama`, as it specifically entails repetition. > > There is the numeric tense {roi}, which, prefixed by a number, tells you > how many times a given event occurs: > > mi vo roi klama > "I go four times." > > (it can also tag a sumti, which specifies the interval during which the > repititions occur) > > "Four traversals" as a sumti would be "vo nu kuckla" (four events of > going), while "an event of traversing four times" would be {[lo] nu vo > roi kuckla}. > > Thanks. I think "vo nu kuckla" is what I am after? So for instance, related to the great great grandfather question, how could i use "dzena" to say "ancestor of mine by five births" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_113_713995800.1408458705653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:07:51 AM UTC-4, sel= pa'i wrote:
la .trans. cu cusku= lo se lidne
> Is there a relative clause cmavo for specifying repetition? e.g. u= sing xa'a
>
>      klama xa'a vo
>
> Which would basically mean "4 traversals", but more precise than a= tanru
> e.g. `vo klama`, as it specifically entails repetition.

There is the numeric tense {roi}, which, prefixed by a number, tells yo= u=20
how many times a given event occurs:

        mi vo roi klama
        "I go four times."

(it can also tag a sumti, which specifies the interval during which the= =20
repititions occur)

"Four traversals" as a sumti would be "vo nu kuckla" (four events of=20
going), while "an event of traversing four times" would be {[lo] nu vo= =20
roi kuckla}.


Thanks. I think "vo nu kuckla" is what= I am after? So for instance, related to the great great grandfather questi= on, how could i use "dzena" to say "ancestor of mine by five births"
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