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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] English w and y sounds
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On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:36:57 PM UTC-4, tsani wrote:
>
> On 27 August 2014 16:12, TR NS <tran...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Let me ask a follow-up question. How would something like "caio" (sha-yo) 
>> be interpreted? I assume it will be considered two cmavo, "ca" and "io". 
>> But then I (almost) never see a word like "io" used anywhere but at the 
>> beginning of a sentence and never with out a clear stop `.io`. 
>>
>
> It can only be interpreted as {ca io}, and the dot before the word "io" is 
> not necessary, since the approximant there is a consonant, not a vowel. In 
> other words, it's the sound /j/ and not /i/, despite the spelling. The 
> appearance of this consonant forces the beginning of a new syllable (all 
> syllables begin with a consonant), and the word boundary is determined by 
> the lack of stress / consonant clusters around.
>

Except for `'` (h).

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 4:36:57 PM UTC-4, ts=
ani wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left:=
 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">On =
27 August 2014 16:12, TR NS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" t=
arget=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"krdFIRuvhsUJ" onmousedown=3D"this=
.href=3D'javascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';re=
turn true;">tran...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Let me ask a follow-up question. How would something =
like "caio" (sha-yo) be interpreted? I assume it will be considered two cma=
vo, "ca" and "io". But then I (almost) never see a word like "io" used anyw=
here but at the beginning of a sentence and never with out a clear stop `.i=
o`. <br>

</div></div></blockquote></div><br>It can only be interpreted as {ca io}, a=
nd the dot before the word "io" is not necessary, since the approximant the=
re is a consonant, not a vowel. In other words, it's the sound /j/ and not =
/i/, despite the spelling. The appearance of this consonant forces the begi=
nning of a new syllable (all syllables begin with a consonant), and the wor=
d boundary is determined by the lack of stress / consonant clusters around.=
<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Except for `'` (h).</div><=
div><br></div></div>

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