Received: from mail-oa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.219.55]:45768) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XMnw7-0004Yv-Dp for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:36 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id m1sf192095oag.0 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3XRUHXVlpmmhN3AhIPg6AUAiCRcfwca9wup/KUdia10=; b=x+pHermf3gD19ZjTXWS13lpfxvrFg+4TxsEWuIFyb7SLlPcRbPVjCkXhL2bsu8b3uJ KwQwU2Vnj0urkepWv6az26uCdrvB4SVJ5moMmoPjhCJ4Mu9BVCE1MLW5Q+KMdwfWtSlK U4A1S6/rOYHJVrnf+h2WPjJ3x5GMtfprmKkYCC/gF0AqUjGgZd/mEBEvGIqnhBreIAtB mK2c74qDe5f+lMBj4/EUaUy7XE/1nVVZqlTKZipZklUv/kenJbLZ35f6o3uKpscCByb/ CfZroQ3VVDox4Ny9N0TSXIppm4GL7GyQhWe+S0aBTo28yFs4HwOKvJAK4WxbKlrW9wr5 b0qQ== X-Received: by 10.182.58.20 with SMTP id m20mr241obq.20.1409187089582; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.85.138 with SMTP id h10ls129399obz.80.gmail; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.186.4 with SMTP id fg4mr377961obc.9.1409187088129; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22e.google.com (mail-qa0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4si508113qcm.0.2014.08.27.17.51.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e; Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w8so72691qac.5 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.229.202.199 with SMTP id ff7mr1183042qcb.9.1409187087936; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:51:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.159.211 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8455bb4b-d7f2-4725-acff-919de66f9a2f@googlegroups.com> References: <90585a7c-1826-4e80-aef3-d83c83d5e8f3@googlegroups.com> <9ac63d8c-f4c5-46a0-a195-c861a1be451d@googlegroups.com> <8455bb4b-d7f2-4725-acff-919de66f9a2f@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:50:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] English w and y sounds To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2fe3acc76d50501a5ef16 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 5212 --001a11c2fe3acc76d50501a5ef16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It's not really rare, because lujvo with those rafsi are fairly common. stevo On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM, TR NS wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:27:58 PM UTC-4, stevo wrote: >> >> There are also rafsi Cai, Cei, and Coi so the 'y' sound can occur in >> lujvo with those rafsi. >> >> > Okay. If I understand correctly, then it can happen but is rare, and will > only happen in lujvo not gismu. > > Let me ask a follow-up question. How would something like "caio" (sha-yo) > be interpreted? I assume it will be considered two cmavo, "ca" and "io". > But then I (almost) never see a word like "io" used anywhere but at the > beginning of a sentence and never with out a clear stop `.io`. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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It's not really rare, because lujvo with those rafsi are= fairly common.=C2=A0

stevo


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:12 PM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:


On = Wednesday, August 27, 2014 2:27:58 PM UTC-4, stevo wrote:
There are also rafsi Cai, Cei, and Coi so the 'y' sound can occur = in lujvo with those rafsi.=C2=A0


Okay. If I understan= d correctly, then it can happen but is rare, and will only happen in lujvo = not gismu.
=C2=A0
Let me ask a follow-up question. How = would something like "caio" (sha-yo) be interpreted? I assume it = will be considered two cmavo, "ca" and "io". But then I= (almost) never see a word like "io" used anywhere but at the beg= inning of a sentence and never with out a clear stop `.io`.=C2=A0

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