Received: from mail-qg0-f55.google.com ([209.85.192.55]:34686) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XNZdX-0001S2-8Q for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:35 -0700 Received: by mail-qg0-f55.google.com with SMTP id j107sf770310qga.0 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=E7mnT9dJdGuMGnKorKLx3+zvqEJPslhQ9WmrsuyMKPY=; b=H/93SmCfci8IRzdY7sDyFbKXRjmhV3wqfJKC6soXWqt40raKkcWvPLkQT5kL+zvGOb 7qOo/hp4w4OCm0lbBTh8Rlppktujvin3QTD1h4A5Vn8raW9qioXAJ8J1i+SncY+GS0Mq RqdRr0VCjvwaje03GoYEf3Tb5H3G0GkZLi7puCNq/+mhPhL46Xu40TJaA3RDxLgmP90U pVedh4VA6B8k2rw8POIeFCileb7vzEnNS94Cpw7sneIsyODx11Y8HUzRyrIlJhXENqlJ gZA/ZRf5mqCT3aCKjLzMN5g7i6bJs+eM4SRDcgCN5VEqLC4oRcft+hOnnES091Lqn+FK LN0w== X-Received: by 10.182.56.228 with SMTP id d4mr87836obq.5.1409370448503; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.29.104 with SMTP id j8ls499063obh.71.gmail; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.45.162 with SMTP id o2mr8485354obm.20.1409370447326; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com. [107.14.166.226]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id dv5si207057pdb.2.2014.08.29.20.47.26 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.226; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:39052] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 79/65-11035-E4941045; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 03:47:26 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E3333EE for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:47:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] English w and y sounds Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 23:47:20 -0400 Message-ID: <2806098.K2454ma8L0@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-34-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <90585a7c-1826-4e80-aef3-d83c83d5e8f3@googlegroups.com> References: <90585a7c-1826-4e80-aef3-d83c83d5e8f3@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 891 On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 15:57:05 TR NS wrote: > Can a gismu or lujvo have a "y" or "w" sound in it (by this I mean the > English sounds)? Reading about the morphology again, it seems like this > can't happen. Which means they only ever occur in attitudinals. Offhand, here are some words which have the /j/ or /w/ sound before a vowel: iedra (ivy), cionmau (panda), ckankua (skunk), mitxondrio, io'imbe. Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.