Received: from mail-ob0-f185.google.com ([209.85.214.185]:34220) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUb9t-0002BG-7q for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:50:01 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f185.google.com with SMTP id uy5sf202121obc.22 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=r8QkQgvVjifjfmeGDCgEy041+zafQDkYJ/F3ohTLKDw=; b=RK4E1n7VEKPqjXw44zChG5B+m4yoaNLq/sXkguHfcv3XM+NawME6m8Eb/p8z8W4E3I c/5CoEOQMgyjbfHny4zZamzh2R9Nvu3joRfbC1GUG7lfh6CBoUgbeg4BuKf97T91B7gy Wn99vBMSwFMRKr33mZ/XY3FEpdYRfS4+0jySK/ADIBnV4XQqY7RBBag0oJDOtL8W9RcK Ce4Co1xgFdNc/M/eRNNIoDfkRB4TEn3PHwVuKEvIT+B9OCJAc7LsD1SP+u21cA80FOgS b2jEbjCYQg8jT0eoUbUbSCJh2OnmbKoXVR6Es/5TxKSPgjsV+4DNTa5wOtdqT4LjaBmd lbLg== X-Received: by 10.50.142.104 with SMTP id rv8mr626821igb.11.1411044593696; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.138.199 with SMTP id qs7ls4251965igb.14.canary; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.70.37.72 with SMTP id w8mr3393239pdj.0.1411044592491; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x233.google.com (mail-qg0-x233.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ld1si3128825qcb.3.2014.09.18.05.49.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::233; Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e89so981865qgf.24 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.136.70 with SMTP id q6mr8576474qat.14.1411044592302; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.50.167 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Sep 2014 05:49:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 06:49:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {bilni}. How to use? It has been use only once! From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c22826afc4190503566b9d X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.9 X-Spam_score_int: -8 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4102 --001a11c22826afc4190503566b9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > 2014-09-18 15:42 GMT+04:00 Jonathan Jones : > >> turni1 is something which governs a populace a/o territory. It makes no >> distinguishment about whether that something is a person, system, or >> anything else which can govern. It is quite possible that in some >> instances, lo turni is a person, while in others, it is a system. >> > > It's a statement to argue about (whether a place can take more than one > variable type and whether this is the case; the same question about {xu lo > kagni ka'e prenu}). > That which governs present day U.S. is a system. That which governed ancient Egypt was a person. That which governs a business is a committee. Three different types of thing, all of which are capable of being turni1. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c22826afc4190503566b9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= hu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@g= mail.com> wrote:
2014-0= 9-18 15:42 GMT+04:00 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>:
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turni1 is something which governs a pop= ulace a/o territory. It makes no distinguishment about whether that somethi= ng is a person, system, or anything else which can govern. It is quite poss= ible that in some instances, lo turni is a person, while in others, it is a= system.

It's a statement to arg= ue about (whether a place can take more than one variable type and whether = this is the case; the same question about {xu lo kagni ka'e prenu}).

That which governs present day U.= S. is a system. That which governed ancient Egypt was a person. That which = governs a business is a committee. Three different types of thing, all of w= hich are capable of being turni1.

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mu'o mi'= ;e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. = mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )=

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