Received: from mail-la0-f62.google.com ([209.85.215.62]:50982) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUtUW-0004K3-Kw for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:24:33 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f62.google.com with SMTP id gi9sf187356lab.17 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:24:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vazXgxkUF0CdRjTh9fb9bTJceteYdtGADerHFp2E5uY=; b=bNUCRtPnu+AayRmnsQqAZXkskrxEAefb3jq34l5Q7J/a9RPC7WfU9MVQH31PDztclT YwswGh075z9QUgqtUU9tU/0BLWhUUd1g3rwyPGwBYlwTskollG+Fx+WrtuxPEkhO1TMv RLtC6AAuh3baWbDulHcCxLw/I4AWszkCqWOBVd1J0mdPMySOmUgZePW6vZg97jRkbfcP sABG3GqIdpMrneWT2gURaJzCi/yHQLa5LYKniNenbzSAwzHeH+oDwL+jTIrZzpEZ8Bin S8yu93kcttFaZCfhJ7+heWntexSwNL8tCnLeW5bt7qpl9VghPwc281oqsbrEpQmM7sV7 ZTGw== X-Received: by 10.152.1.170 with SMTP id 10mr88702lan.2.1411115065217; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:24:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.27.201 with SMTP id v9ls319559lag.40.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.2.97 with SMTP id 1mr1710161lat.6.1411114953172; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com (mail-wi0-x22c.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ht8si56894wib.1.2014.09.19.01.22.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c; Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hi2so1553053wib.17 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.95.163 with SMTP id dl3mr4614849wib.79.1411114953064; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:22:33 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] {sivni}. strange wording. From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444ea8f83c6b1050366cdc3 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 2288 --f46d0444ea8f83c6b1050366cdc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 x1 is private/personal/privy/[secret/confidential/confined] to x2; x1 is not-public/hidden. Also: x1 is secret (one sense); *x2 is in the know/in touch with/privy to x1* (= selsivni for reordered places); exclusion can be expressed by na'e(bo) in x2: excluded/in the dark (= nalselsivni). See also gubni, mipri. Don't you think that the text in bold contradict the definition? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --f46d0444ea8f83c6b1050366cdc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
x1 is private/personal/privy/[secret/confidential/con= fined] to x2; x1 is not-public/hidden.

Also: x1 is= secret (one sense); x2 is in the know/in touch with/privy to x1 (= =3D selsivni for reordered places); exclusion can be expressed by na'e(= bo) in x2: excluded/in the dark (=3D nalselsivni). See also gubni, mipri.


Don't you think that the text in= bold contradict the definition?

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