Received: from mail-wg0-f59.google.com ([74.125.82.59]:62437) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUwqp-0005OH-4A for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:47 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f59.google.com with SMTP id m15sf225018wgh.24 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ORIw36JZd5D6KP2Xs6b8zVeBJ0zB5E5AKR01tP9vWxg=; b=xTlDegcfP3HF7PMl2VAGOj0Py5JnSR0bxMHl9yEW1j4QH14+OEgi0Jxmkk3hWEMnMy rZ5VkAbmh7pWghJ6jjd4Y9LHDQ1y+QfyK7E2OB11bZx1Ywp64aqNfy0VY//2EPtQg+Ju 1bKTB8gV/gw90a9KZ+I0UxhQ6Lr6WQpKUJu3k+O18djHKDnRKJVmMT4AgK9gwJbIh+VA aoqJckN5Ww8KVFeu3Lg9tXDZJsCZ7D/uxw7JWUUGIsLX01+caub9UiR5tNa0TrGU++Gk uHd7ITrY+tET+cJ303whWzwyGp/RG22LRTWkF0UVhqENpVO69Z1F+q6nh/z+CTUBqro0 gI9A== X-Received: by 10.152.20.195 with SMTP id p3mr120107lae.1.1411127980210; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.153.6.2 with SMTP id cq2ls311238lad.102.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.144.102 with SMTP id sl6mr1829112lbb.3.1411127977449; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22f.google.com (mail-lb0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si218805lbd.1.2014.09.19.04.59.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f; Received: by mail-lb0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id n15so3031627lbi.34 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.128.228 with SMTP id nr4mr5873081lbb.42.1411127977340; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 04:59:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:59:37 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {dizlo} in {le cmalu noltru} From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a8418d272ae050369d5c2 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3610 --047d7b3a8418d272ae050369d5c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > {lo dizlo be lo bitmu} =the foot of the wall. > > But wait, > {dizlo} = x1 is low/down/downward in frame of reference x2 as compared > with baseline/standard height x3. > > does this "frame of reference" mean that it should be the lowest point of > an object ("wall")? > I don't think dizlo1 _has to_ be be a part of dizlo2, but it _can_ be. > How to fill all places of {dizlo} then? > > I never know quite what to do with "by standard" places, I think they should all be dropped. Presumably in this particular case the "standard height" might be half way up the wall. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b3a8418d272ae050369d5c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <<= a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:
{lo dizlo be lo bitmu} =C2=A0=3Dthe foot of the wall.

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But wait,
{dizlo} =3D x1 is low/down/downward in = frame of reference x2 as compared with baseline/standard height x3.

does this "frame of reference" mean that = it should be the lowest point of an object ("wall")?
<= /blockquote>

I don't think dizlo1 _has to_ be be a p= art of dizlo2, but it _can_ be.
=C2=A0
How to fill all places of {dizlo} then?

I never know quite what to do with = "by standard" places, I think they should all be dropped. Presuma= bly in this particular case the "standard height" might be half w= ay up the wall.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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