Received: from mail-la0-f62.google.com ([209.85.215.62]:56446) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUwxo-0005QV-K8 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:07:01 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f62.google.com with SMTP id gi9sf222811lab.7 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=kp+23Ngct8+k6QgcVoTCDfdaRCy4PrEMC5/b5mUKL6g=; b=anlTUG/5REgWdRtfKpEypXF9jRa7hsHd1AANwU++INjpzY6j1DCC0U3tqXLEaaAdSq P7WSiqhXzR9afQD3F7Nrn5DSwWx0q1Zwiowwa13/9Uqrl9u9biu4GzhqRY3aJYy9eEmI 5o+j3qskorr4ZajdVNvSNpuh8t11Bb5huJIoRLcJ3Llx28g4Wpb8tdMVsy1bkA24XfX5 kO0WBPErAwyYZ7fJFsrOxts7dBuPC/L/8q2tgaJo8MJ4yxiMcd7kE6X91EpOrHGkboFz /inbkKMYWN1i7WrCFE+hr/IS+Qx8wDR44Nhz1VF3Zer2p6z9hi+UvZ2IGh4HePIJ0ULv dKmw== X-Received: by 10.152.36.41 with SMTP id n9mr126639laj.3.1411128411035; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.44.229 with SMTP id h5ls337006lam.4.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.170.166 with SMTP id an6mr13432lbc.17.1411128408551; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x231.google.com (mail-lb0-x231.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c04::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si221471lbd.1.2014.09.19.05.06.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::231; Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id z12so2980440lbi.22 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.9.200 with SMTP id c8mr6502437lab.76.1411128408441; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.25.229 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 05:06:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:06:48 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {sivni}. strange wording. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1132efa08489f4050369ef6d X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3329 --001a1132efa08489f4050369ef6d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > x1 is private/personal/privy/[secret/confidential/confined] to x2; x1 is > not-public/hidden. > > Also: x1 is secret (one sense); *x2 is in the know/in touch with/privy to > x1* (= selsivni for reordered places); exclusion can be expressed by > na'e(bo) in x2: excluded/in the dark (= nalselsivni). See also gubni, mipri. > > > Don't you think that the text in bold contradict the definition? > The definition may be a little confusing, but "private to x2" means x2 is the only one who knows about it. e.g.: "How can I keep my photos private to me only?" mu'o mi'ne xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1132efa08489f4050369ef6d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <<= a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.= name@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div>x1 is private/personal/privy/[secret/confidential/confined] to x2; x1 i= s not-public/hidden.

Also: x1 is secret (one sense= ); x2 is in the know/in touch with/privy to x1 (=3D selsivni for reo= rdered places); exclusion can be expressed by na'e(bo) in x2: excluded/= in the dark (=3D nalselsivni). See also gubni, mipri.

<= div>
Don't you think that the text in bold contradict the= definition?

The definition may= be a little confusing, but "private to x2" means x2 is the only = one who knows about it.
e.g.: "How can I keep my photos private t= o me only?"

mu'o mi'ne xorxes=C2=A0

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