Received: from mail-lb0-f186.google.com ([209.85.217.186]:43222) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XUyGX-0006N8-7b for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:26 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f186.google.com with SMTP id 10sf88810lbg.23 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hchC5eCGv7tG/QNfimvAw0Luc0Pq1OY/tzNuYg2iDQk=; b=um0G6CqGL5F6t0e5rfhkA5fjeYkfaVugo5cj4y1tGLsn/Wu7TpoBKU3yGg9QUaRSko XwamEnvooGGERoIhDV8UHyH+qkS4mSMT4CqZUjZ+SN6xtgmwcWNHBJEM+Xe4TuYElUdH 6nKmwVx0lDP3C4XALBluLBn4u5utAhhLT10HINDzqUPr6t3hMtoBJK56B2qhcWcc2RNo wG4e9rD9CYF3GoRu7Hk7BHWfsIh11m5ljLZKbLhuhF7th91/zjoSIxPkXsOptTrvy+qt p+rk+XxpEIGhU7YtrsHSR+EoVE5II9RJtJnJGVn8E66Cnxi9xr7emRJNYfbMr1Mn/N2y LQ4w== X-Received: by 10.152.19.226 with SMTP id i2mr129660lae.5.1411133418019; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.1.40 with SMTP id 8ls308097laj.65.gmail; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.182.8 with SMTP id ea8mr482044lbc.11.1411133415655; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id go4si86066wib.3.2014.09.19.06.30.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e; Received: by mail-we0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id x48so2471333wes.5 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.203.8 with SMTP id km8mr1085741wjc.51.1411133415532; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.89.193 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2014 06:30:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5076980.qB49T6XaTr@caracal> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 17:30:15 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lamji4 From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae47e6f6af6005036b1904 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 10187 --047d7bae47e6f6af6005036b1904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My question: give me a meaningful plixau examples with all places of cimde filled with other than LA-sumti and pro-sumti. If you are saying that a place can be filled only with them please explcitely state that. A translation (not glossing) to English is required. I'm working on new gimste with usage examples. Without usage the word or a te sumti doesnt exist for me. 2014-09-19 17:09 GMT+04:00 Michael Turniansky : > Gleki, > Is your question one about usage as both spatial and temporal > dimensions? Because if so, lojban has no problem with that many times > things like that. "cimde" itself, for example, can be either measurement= . > "ti" can be either "here" or "now". lidne can be referring either to > something in a line, a time sequence, or even just an abstract mathematic= al > concept. > > Or am I missing the subject of your query? > ---gejyspa > > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This differs with other usage where lamji4 was {lo ka ce'u ce'u purci}. >> >> {la potygug cu maji la sangug lo ka stuzi vau lo ka ce'u ce'u stici vo'a= }? >> >> 2014-05-08 20:29 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat : >> >>> On Thursday, May 08, 2014 15:47:45 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: >>> > what would be the most useful example of lamji with the four places >>> filled >>> > in? >>> >>> Don't know about the *most* useful, but here's one: >>> >>> la .potygug. lamji la .sangug. lo ka stuzi lo stici >>> >>> The definition doesn't clarify whether lo ve lamji cu farna lo lamji lo >>> se >>> lamji gi'ikau farna lo se lamji lo lamji. >>> >>> mu'omi'e .pier. >>> -- >>> La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. >>> Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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My question: give me a meaningful plixau examples with all= places of cimde filled with other than LA-sumti and pro-sumti.
If you = are saying that a place can be filled only with them please explcitely stat= e that.
A translation (not glossing) to English is required.

I'm working on =C2=A0new gimste with usage example= s. Without usage the word or a te sumti doesnt exist for me.

=

2014-= 09-19 17:09 GMT+04:00 Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>= ;:
Gleki,=C2=A0=C2=A0 Is your question one about usage as both spatial and temporal dim= ensions? =C2=A0Because if so, lojban has no problem with that many times th= ings like that. =C2=A0"cimde" itself, for example, can be either = measurement. =C2=A0"ti" can be either "here" or "n= ow". =C2=A0lidne can be referring either to something in a line, a tim= e sequence, or even just an abstract mathematical concept.

=C2=A0 Or am I missing the subject of your query?
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ---gejyspa


On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna &l= t;gleki.is.= my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
<= div dir=3D"ltr">This differs with other usage where lamji4 was {lo ka ce= 9;u ce'u purci}.

{la potygug cu maji la sangug l= o ka stuzi vau lo ka ce'u ce'u stici vo'a}?

2014-05-08 20:2= 9 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Thursday, May 08, 2014 15:47:45 Gleki Arxokuna= wrote:
> what would be the most useful example of lamji with the four places fi= lled
> in?

Don't know about the *most* useful, but here's one:

la .potygug. lamji la .sangug. lo ka stuzi lo stici

The definition doesn't clarify whether lo ve lamji cu farna lo lamji lo= se
lamji gi'ikau farna lo se lamji lo lamji.

mu'omi'e .pier.
--
La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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