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Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:40:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] oi bei
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{be} starts a new chain. {bei} continues the current chain. {be'o}
terminates the current chain. Technically it is somewhat extraneous, but
working the other way would require you to fully terminate the last sumti
in the chain, so that a new {be} could only attach to the old one. This
could get quite verbose if the previous sumti was complicated.

For an artificial example, {mi tavla be* fi lo nu mi'o klama lo zarci kei
ku be* fe do}, where be* is this modified {be} you are considering. The
{kei ku} cannot be omitted (though {ku ku} would have worked). Compare this
to {mi tavla be fi lo nu mi'o klama lo zarci bei fe do}.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why is bei necessary in a be ... be'o construction? Is seems extraneous.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>{be} starts a new chain. {bei} continues the current =
chain. {be&#39;o} terminates the current chain. Technically it is somewhat =
extraneous, but working the other way would require you to fully terminate =
the last sumti in the chain, so that a new {be} could only attach to the ol=
d one. This could get quite verbose if the previous sumti was complicated.<=
br><br>For an artificial example, {mi tavla be* fi lo nu mi&#39;o klama lo =
zarci kei ku be* fe do}, where be* is this modified {be} you are considerin=
g. The {kei ku} cannot be omitted (though {ku ku} would have worked). Compa=
re this to {mi tavla be fi lo nu mi&#39;o klama lo zarci bei fe do}.<br><br=
></div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:34 AM, TR NS <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:transfire@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>transfire@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Why is bei necessary in a be ... be&#39;o construction? =
Is seems extraneous.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br></fo=
nt></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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