Received: from mail-ee0-f55.google.com ([74.125.83.55]:44008) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XOoCO-00018a-ST for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:41 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f55.google.com with SMTP id e49sf722212eek.0 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=EBQyVptjHUSmsUaK7SmUkMmM5jUuRPS9GxVPZVQF+F8=; b=OXjfz7mrwr1JSwuaECgGAZLfnVTjrrj6E76w8agXI2Op8Moq85Pi4fxZQHwR2r3+df Zg1WbkCIewn3rL+/HlLkDW6cqUtcN5Pa44WgctthAwGSO+sgDxgrjmC7IDPCHtUGTjdp lJ3kUcQMVh6spzWlnHA0MXofpe5uD24jUDWLhnu+uHYsmdT0wgRzBdR4odSeckN2RsdV 3xBxDZ3jOjnzSqAHG4eAgu2mwJ8rliMu5nzmXQXyr7FzI6yRnAYNKLS2sFzX2sArn20O OKsMz2NMjV3x+cs1euy4ttZC1tpejgBLjEYstouqe58Q4hyrKLOD7DxTt4sihdVS7e7x WXOw== X-Received: by 10.180.77.129 with SMTP id s1mr101293wiw.9.1409664753900; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.188.3 with SMTP id fw3ls583760wic.11.canary; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.205.138 with SMTP id lg10mr324231wjc.5.1409664752774; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd12116.kasserver.com (dd12116.kasserver.com. [85.13.134.113]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b6si719083lbd.1.2014.09.02.06.32.32 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: me@v4hn.de does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=85.13.134.113; Received: from samsa (brln-4db9811c.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.129.28]) by dd12116.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4EF3224C451D for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 15:32:29 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Beauty vs Beautiful Message-ID: <20140902133229.GF585@samsa.fritz.box> References: <8d995726-ddad-4b45-b3db-4672bf530d47@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3607uds81ZQvwCD0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: me@v4hn.de does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1649 --3607uds81ZQvwCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 08:58:32AM -0400, .arpis. wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:19 AM, TR NS wrote: > > How does one say "she is beautiful" as opposed to "she is beauty > > [incarnate]"? Leave the "incarnate" out, I just put that there to clarify > Ignoring the fact that the latter is near-universally false, {ta melbi} vs > {ta ka melbi}, or {ta ka ce'u melbi} if you want to be more precise. There's also {ta si'o melbi} which pe'i fits better in this case. There are more abstractors than nu/du'u and ka .u'icu'i I would still prefer {ta melbi traji}/{ta melrai} which is less poetic, but more easy to comprehend.. mu'o --3607uds81ZQvwCD0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUBcbtAAoJEKCfEUk/PuMmjSsP+wQJtqGC2e/ri9tTMjqbi1hy wZDjsJ5/Y2sn5irXvkATfGoZjokFoj29doxUwNsMhanKuVdEqK2PRbjVicfOlHZ4 UX9qkHBVibV+Xpga8Grzo5wLh7aCeb0fAeia5oGgV/1jsPleBO4cYmermPD4VHw6 BPszybv0xemz5tRC/f+TrBpduY8Yjyctxm2besBApb92YhPM3B2uykShjFqt05nO T1LVIxt3czGoU0gmq2T5nJr2GgecWSykIi1k+OnSShlD0uujZPmSFdS/z+oWBQEb YH1snQkv7UCMPHymWC3E7MF4chFQz/UstPCOJSEMFqtKJh65YAkueW7awwRGr8qK TheH6mCQRKRtyfz2rj6kgT01brlkLaIXvIAgTreGG4kZJ+3f1AeGqWQmOGjCZBDO fOAm3IHUR55/iYhDvTFRMLkaVV9Ivt6K1H2ccWjbzh/C/C2iluFEu3oyuSvrrXfx 5egxCdDLFA6iy1xsoumONs/F6P7l17NM8mmGiGlAEsgs4mcXutJXtbFLZcJYyXWX 68RK+ei/ImYYG9BjQ4YsVhg+k+Cmkq+24LjLsRS0Jy3Zvop70jcJhTozA6MeKYC5 AzPOn8bKQQVLixsKVqOWYaQ/8oZUBjBpLRSCKRKLDEq9nxpp4zsL9+tOfWRxImfT LMpjQJrS6V99TbTqLBv5 =33Dm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3607uds81ZQvwCD0--