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From: Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:45:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] precise tenru
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On 26 September 2014 00:13, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:34:03 PM UTC-4, tsani wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is some disagreement in what happens with the xN places where N > 1
>> for je-tanru, but we all pretty much agree that the x1 must be the same. So
>> {klama je jubme} would require its x1 to be both a klama and a jubme.
>>
>> In general about precise tanru though, I have a system of interpretation
>> schemes. Tanru fit broadly into three categories:
>>
>> 1) Compositional tanru (interpreted with the Flipping Principle)
>>
>
> What is the Flipping Principle?
>

A tanru interpretation scheme in which the seltau are flipping into an
abstraction place (or less commonly into any sumti place) of the tertau.

e.g. tavla mutce -> mutce lo ni ce'u tavla

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 2=
6 September 2014 00:13, TR NS <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:trans=
fire@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">transfire@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"">On Thursda=
y, September 25, 2014 8:34:03 PM UTC-4, tsani wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br>=
</div><div>There is some disagreement in what happens with the xN places wh=
ere N &gt; 1 for je-tanru, but we all pretty much agree that the x1 must be=
 the same. So {klama je jubme} would require its x1 to be both a klama and =
a jubme.</div><div><br></div><div>In general about precise tanru though, I =
have a system of interpretation schemes. Tanru fit broadly into three categ=
ories:</div><div><br></div><div>1) Compositional tanru (interpreted with th=
e Flipping Principle)</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></=
span><div>What is the Flipping Principle?</div></div></blockquote><div><br>=
</div><div>A tanru interpretation scheme in which the seltau are flipping i=
nto an abstraction place (or less commonly into any sumti place) of the ter=
tau.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>e.g. tavla mutce -&gt; mutce lo ni ce&#=
39;u tavla</div><div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></di=
v></div></div>

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