Received: from mail-oi0-f59.google.com ([209.85.218.59]:60265) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XXZQG-0008Om-U1 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:17 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f59.google.com with SMTP id x69sf675904oia.24 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5ze1ePiYFlpf6QovO5ZGURVMSH1k/rwBy21eyhULmG8=; b=GoO2yBnYNZee04d4ZtZ8Kn4rWR/dq5LOjC+qG0rO25lR3dAIXRIwLFrCzC0oRuIE+m f7wKOHqcXw5okrvUxI6PY9ya2tdtQY4YB0BAR4PGVMPFWiyvyEpUldOx+mni/8BXbUwR Yqh4PLGdw0b8Uw2p2lt+WSKS9vewc5sl4abj2nH22Nk70kXe9eoVaCok8W80CDBDKGj8 ezinWxadHVboeKH68Vq4eZcsxziKrVQ0FlGzzLxhdwbkAY84Dj7yuB/woWz5jtIYshyb zYtxHiINw4RGFdmMOMEcFcjSV1Z1s0z/80bwE7hrh6aDWQrBF16BUO8c38w7Cg15tlwO UKSQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5ze1ePiYFlpf6QovO5ZGURVMSH1k/rwBy21eyhULmG8=; b=OyMYHgGJJ8kNtbaRlcTRWSjxv8NeNpHriqkNaKh0mNH471tbpnTejndb3eVmNuVT7v tuiQfP4cTJjXVCst59neDHLS9lVhCwdT+9HaTrRMJcVl3kBJsJNGzFoVUnFzGJmpUv4x y47j61qFIF01mSZoDcn8jZoetsqEI7NwGb7M7rrYMa6ahhxTKulbPDPDMjmPeRWRpObe RDdiP+TkkiXd+2uljkeye4Iesfz/BR58JI4j7C3DIkTZgI+4EOy4KLx4x+B4xb/1py7n 3WK856NPz0X5um30hcN87HdQTck3KQ9NmXdXuXl7c1Xcd0UU3WJyUnkV9RGIdZMGLRTi BEuA== X-Received: by 10.140.80.210 with SMTP id c76mr14090qgd.18.1411752906352; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.98.239 with SMTP id o102ls1440983qge.70.gmail; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.35.227 with SMTP id n90mr9051qgn.32.1411752905328; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:35:04 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0bd58a8b-0623-4a79-8eff-efef1fd92144@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <9bc279e1-7b02-4bce-8290-377cded6aa0e@googlegroups.com> <2a66ca19-c754-411b-aef5-188698d13207@googlegroups.com> <56379c9e-0dd4-46ce-9941-76e098ca39ee@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] precise tenru MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_674_1006221669.1411752904627" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 3598 ------=_Part_674_1006221669.1411752904627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Friday, September 26, 2014 12:01:58 PM UTC-4, tsani wrote: > > Tanru are simple, and less verbose constructs are typically less precise. > Tanru are designed to be inexact in their meaning, and are designed to be > highly dependent on context. If you don't like that, then don't use tanru; > if you want to be precise, there're a multitude of alternatives. > > It's not a matter of me not liking it. I just want to know if that is the intent, in light of the fact that much idiom is the consequent. Actually, that reminds me. I think people get the wrong idea about my questions sometimes. Please don't misconstrue my questions for disgruntlement. I am simply trying to understand the "why" of things. That includes asking about possible alternate approaches --sometimes asking "why not" gives much more insight than just asking "why". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_674_1006221669.1411752904627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Friday, September 26, 2014 12:01:58 PM UTC-4, t= sani wrote:
Tanru are simple, and less verbose const= ructs are typically less precise. Tanru are designed to be inexact in their= meaning, and are designed to be highly dependent on context. If you don't = like that, then don't use tanru; if you want to be precise, there're a mult= itude of alternatives.

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It's not a matter of me not liking it. I just want to kn= ow if that is the intent, in light of the fact that much idiom is the conse= quent.

Actually, that reminds me. I think people g= et the wrong idea about my questions sometimes. Please don't misconstrue my= questions for disgruntlement. I am simply trying to understand the "why" o= f things. That includes asking about possible alternate approaches --someti= mes asking "why not" gives much more insight than just asking "why".
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