Received: from mail-ee0-f55.google.com ([74.125.83.55]:54350) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XxFAR-0004P0-Ka for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:13:01 -0800 Received: by mail-ee0-f55.google.com with SMTP id c13sf206086eek.0 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=th483zr9BWP01nJHAUDpQ9fmpOUSLJ/kpj/IXGNEYIQ=; b=XijCh9664j4XuhJ9yjszms28ul6Nm5rxEgRaNJqEhIvp8PRFELh99qKLAyjKrgSkS5 k8y6cbdLrS06ViXL2cBjpnYUcn8v4F1YkZdRbl7lDrscy2nADuf9hTSQvmlEHc2nfZXn nUSsWU1urY2tQEvCVzy92/gCQ8Ws7ZQh/MKziiW6lkxw3XVc03vMpskMCP2vf2J6qlHL s9OU3FMEPwntSLYeC5NaZkTyzzSm87TL9R5Dt6Vl4IZUwCUR9G2zdmOyG1FGo3dejUXi fvyIJbXvTe3PRlMv+wBnpBpIranL0KD9dpLiEo04dCPiB2UhJOHQJp/Yr15C87E99ogs WgaQ== X-Received: by 10.152.5.194 with SMTP id u2mr354010lau.3.1417871573052; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.206.37 with SMTP id ll5ls516634lac.53.gmail; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.14.2 with SMTP id l2mr4435555lbc.5.1417871570914; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x230.google.com (mail-lb0-x230.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xj7si1309121lbb.0.2014.12.06.05.12.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::230; Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id p9so1870689lbv.35 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.120.42 with SMTP id kz10mr7606431lab.92.1417871570801; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.111 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:12:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <12bb3a3b-bc48-4c8b-8013-fd4655e9bab5@googlegroups.com> References: <1845745.bB0cgV8TPn@caracal> <5386231c-3080-47eb-8416-bb20548ab60e@googlegroups.com> <5480EC8A.4040702@gmail.com> <12bb3a3b-bc48-4c8b-8013-fd4655e9bab5@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:12:50 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: White men can't jump. From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122839a509bf905098bf3bd X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3125 --089e0122839a509bf905098bf3bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:28 AM, wrote: > > Now I'm wondering how da'i and ju'ocui compare. > "ju'o cu'i" indicates that the speaker in not quite certain that the proposition is true. It corresponds to English "perhaps" or "maybe". ju'o cu'i do pu tolcpa lo do santa lo sorpeka Perhaps you left your umbrella in the bus. "da'i" indicates that the proposition is not factual. It corresponds to English "would". da'i la .alis. pu banli lo ka mamta Alice would have been a great mother. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e0122839a509bf905098bf3bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:28 AM, <ravas@outlook.com> wro= te:

Now I'm= wondering how da'i and ju'ocui compare.

"ju'o cu'i" indicates that the speaker = in not quite certain that the proposition is true. It corresponds to Englis= h "perhaps" or "maybe".

=C2=A0= =C2=A0ju'o cu'i do pu tolcpa lo do santa lo sorpeka
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0Perhaps you left your umbrella in the bus.

"da'i" indicates that the proposition is not factual. It c= orresponds to English "would".

=C2=A0 da= 'i la .alis. pu banli lo ka mamta
=C2=A0 Alice would have bee= n a great mother.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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