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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h10si1224137wiw.2.2014.12.03.11.31.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::229; Received: by mail-wi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id r20so34256877wiv.0 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.190.19 with SMTP id gm19mr9755951wjc.51.1417635060993; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.87.229 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 11:31:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:31:00 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] White men can't jump. From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bea37923b5690050954e265 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 5398 --047d7bea37923b5690050954e265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-12-03 5:51 GMT+03:00 : > White men can't jump. > lo kapli nakni cu na kakne lo nu plipe > lo kapli nakni na ka'e plipe > I think those are fine although I can only suggest some optimisations: i lo kapli nakni na kakne lo ka plipe i lo kapli nakni na ka'e plipe The first would imply physical ability. The second just talks about possibility. > > I can't jump; possibly because I am a white man. > mi na kakne lo nu plipe ki'u da'i mi lo kapli nakni > I'd use {la'acu'i} instead of {da'i}. {da'i mi kapli nakni} = I could be a white man. {da'i} explicitly shows that a phrase is in subjunctive mood. > Are these translations correct? > xu le xe fanva drani > > In the second sentence I want to indicate that I don't actually know why I > am unable to jump; > however, it could be because I'm a white man. > > ki'e > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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2014-12-03 5:51 GMT+03:00 <ravas@outlook.com>:
White men can't jump.
lo = kapli nakni cu na kakne lo nu plipe
lo kapli nakni na ka'e plipe
=

I think those are fine although I ca= n only suggest some optimisations:

i lo kapli nakn= i na kakne lo ka plipe=C2=A0
i lo kapli nakni na ka'e plipe

The first would imply physical ability.
<= br>
The second just talks about possibility.

I can't jump; possibly because I a= m a white man.
mi na kakne lo nu plipe ki'u da'i mi lo kapli nak= ni

I'd use {la'acu'i}= instead of {da'i}.

{da'i mi kapli nakni} = =3D I could be a white man.
{da'i} explicitly shows that a ph= rase is in subjunctive mood.


Are these translations correct?
xu le xe fanva= drani

In the second sentence I want to indicate that I don't a= ctually know why I am unable to jump;
however, it could be because I= 9;m a white man.

ki'e

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