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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j6si523470wix.1.2014.12.15.00.03.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::236; Received: by mail-wg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l2so13923480wgh.27 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:03:59 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.84.98 with SMTP id x2mr28617861wiy.14.1418630639273; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:03:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.86.200 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:03:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 11:03:39 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Give us a moment, please. 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or may be more precisely {e'o mi'a zukte ze'i}= since the emphasis is on what we do, not they wait.

2014-12-15 7:58 GMT+03:00 ravas <= ravas@outlook.com>:
"Give us a moment, please."
I found this sentence here: =
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/2645083
It had a lojban t= ranslation:
{ko tu'a mi ze'i denpa}

Obviously the English= sentence is an idiom,
which we won't translate directly.
However= , is the aforementioned lojban coherent?

I think {e'o do ze'= i denpa} would work.

Another translation could be {e'o do ze'= ;i xrukla vi}.

I also thought of:
{e'o mi'a ze'i djic= a lo nu sivtavla}
[Request] We [for a short time period] want to private= ly talk.

Curiously
camxes.lojban.org/ (awesome)
claims this is not grammati= cally correct.
Yet it has no problem with:
{e'o mi'a ze'i= djica lo nu sivni tavla}

Is {sivtavla} incorrect? Or have I discove= red a bug?
=

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