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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: la .neityn. cu cusku di'e > So, apparently, {vecnu} works as {fa} sells {fe} to {fi} for {fo} > amount, but when I put it into Camxes, it tells me that it's supposed to > be {fa} {fe} {fo} {fi}. > for example, {mi vecnu lo tabjme bliku rodo 2000}, the proper order, > doesn't work, but {mi vecnu lo tabjme bliku 2000 rodo} works. How is > that supposed to work?! [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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How is > that supposed to work?! That is because {2000 ro do} is the same as {re no no no ro do}, which is "all 2000 of you", it's one quantified sumti. To convert a number like {re nonono) (2000) to a sumti, you have to use {li} (an article just like {lo}, except it turns numbers into sumti). {li re nonono} (or {li 2000}) is "2000" as a sumti. {mi vecnu lo tabjme bliku ro do li 2000} will parse as you intended it. Precisely speaking, you're not selling things for "2000" (the mathematical value) but for 2000 dollars or whatever the currency is. So more correct would be {lo rupnu be li 2000}. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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