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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Le dimanche 11 janvier 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik Natanael Gustafsson a écrit : > > Hi! > > I have just started learning Lojban, partly because I find the very > different grammar interesting, and partly because I am looking for a > culturally neutral language for use in some of my art (I am a composer and > musician). However, when most people don't know a language it is very > important how it sounds. Lojban seems to have a lot of short words, > resulting in very many syllables needed for rather simple sentences. It > also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels are arguably more important > when singing. Do any of you have any experience in making music or poetry > in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoughts about how well suited > Lojban is this? 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IN] [A] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.160.185 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gusni.kantu[at]gmail.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders Content-Length: 6338 ------=_Part_451_746291348.1420935687573 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_452_1614187356.1420935687573" ------=_Part_452_1614187356.1420935687573 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le dimanche 11 janvier 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik Natanael Gustafsson a=20 =C3=A9crit : > > Hi! > > I have just started learning Lojban, partly because I find the very=20 > different grammar interesting, and partly because I am looking for a=20 > culturally neutral language for use in some of my art (I am a composer an= d=20 > musician). However, when most people don't know a language it is very=20 > important how it sounds. Lojban seems to have a lot of short words,=20 > resulting in very many syllables needed for rather simple sentences. It= =20 > also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels are arguably more important= =20 > when singing. Do any of you have any experience in making music or poetry= =20 > in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoughts about how well suited= =20 > Lojban is this? Also, if any of you have a short poem in Lojban that I=20 > could try to use for a composition, I would be most grateful. > > Cheers > Erik Natanael Gustafsson > coi fi'i la .erik. Here is some lojban songs sung by me: https://vimeo.com/album/3152276 http://fotono.tumblr.com/tagged/jbosnavei I know some of recordings of la selpa'i are lojban songs: https://www.youtube.com/user/shanikuzai/videos As for a short poem in Lojban for your composition, I recommend a=20 translation by la mukti of "This is just to say" by William Carlos Williams= : https://vimeo.com/113054946#t=3D8m50s mi'e la guskant mu'o =20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_452_1614187356.1420935687573 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Le dimanche 11 janvier 2015 02:23:16 UTC+9, Erik N= atanael Gustafsson a =C3=A9crit :
Hi!

I have just started learning Lojban, pa= rtly because I find the very different grammar interesting, and partly beca= use I am looking for a culturally neutral language for use in some of my ar= t (I am a composer and musician). However, when most people don't know a la= nguage it is very important how it sounds. Lojban seems to have a lot of sh= ort words, resulting in very many syllables needed for rather simple senten= ces. It also seems heavy on consonants, while vowels are arguably more impo= rtant when singing. Do any of you have any experience in making music or po= etry in Lojban and would you mind sharing your thoughts about how well suit= ed Lojban is this? Also, if any of you have a short poem in Lojban that I c= ould try to use for a composition, I would be most grateful.

Cheers<= br>Erik Natanael Gustafsson


<= /div>coi = fi'i la .erik.

<= span style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Here is so= me lojban songs sung by me:
https://vimeo.com/album/3152276
http://fotono.tumblr.com/tagged/jbosnavei

I know some of recordings = of la selpa'i are lojban songs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/shanikuzai/videos

As for a short poem in Lojban for y= our composition, I recommend a translation by la mukti of "This is just to = say" by William Carlos Williams:
https://vimeo.com/113054946#t=3D8m50s

mi'e la guskant mu'o
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