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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 2015-01-25 7:29 GMT+03:00 volcpitar : > Given what is said above how would you best say the following?: > > 1. Do you have a pencil (on you)? (I might need to borrow one) > > Lo do terci'a vi xu zasti? > [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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Do you have a pencil (on you)? (I might need to borrow one) > > Lo do terci'a vi xu zasti? > xu do vi ralte lo pinsi > 2. Do you have a car (with you today)? > > Xu vi karce do? > xu do se kansa lo karce ca lo cabdei > > 3. Do you have my book (in your possession)? (I don't see it on the > table where I left it.) > > Xu do vi ponse lo mi cukta? > {ponse} is for legal possession. Usually {ralte} is again better in such situations. > 4. Do you have a house or an apartment? > > Do ge'i se zdadi'u gi kumyzda? > {xu do ponse lo dinju} = Do you own a house? lo kumyzda - apartment As for attempts to fill in certain places they have their usage too: xu do se zdani lo barda kumyzda zu do se kumyzda lo barda = Do you live in a big apartment? 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2015-01-25 7:29 GMT+03:00 volcpitar <apeal@comcast.net>:=
Given what is said above how would yo= u best say the following?:

1.=C2=A0 Do you have a pencil (on=C2=A0 y= ou)?=C2=A0 (I might need to borrow one)

Lo do terci'a vi xu zas= ti?

xu do vi ralte lo pinsi
=


2.=C2=A0 Do you have a= car (with you today)?

Xu vi karce do?
xu do se kansa lo karce ca lo cabdei
=C2=A0

3.=C2=A0 Do you have my book (in your possessio= n)?=C2=A0 (I don't see it on the table where I left it.)

Xu do v= i ponse lo mi cukta?

{ponse} is f= or legal possession. Usually {ralte} is again better in such situations.


4.=C2=A0 Do you hav= e a house or an apartment?

Do ge'i se zdadi'u gi kumyzda?

{xu do ponse lo dinju} =3D Do you own a= house?
lo kumyzda - apartment

As for at= tempts to fill in certain places they have their usage too:
xu do= se zdani lo barda kumyzda
zu do se kumyzda lo barda
= =C2=A0=3D Do you live in a big apartment?

Of cours= e, I translated your examples without trying to rework your own translation= s.=C2=A0
lo se klani be lo se jinvi so'iroi zmadu lo se klani= be lo jinvi
=C2=A0


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