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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 20:34:29 volcpitar wrote: > I looked up "house" and "apartment" on Jbovlaste and found "zdadi'u" and > "kumyzda." Why would "zdadi'u" not be more appropriate for "apartment > building"? How can the order of the rafsi in the two terms be inconsistent? [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. IN] [A] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.220.60 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 T_HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid Content-Length: 1123 On Saturday, January 24, 2015 20:34:29 volcpitar wrote: > I looked up "house" and "apartment" on Jbovlaste and found "zdadi'u" and > "kumyzda." Why would "zdadi'u" not be more appropriate for "apartment > building"? How can the order of the rafsi in the two terms be inconsistent? lo zdadi'u is a house building. It can contain one house or many, but it's not a factory building, a bird's nest, or a cave. lo kumyzda is a house which is a room in a building. An apartment is a section of a building, with its own door, used as a house. Normally it is divided into rooms, but "kumyzda" interprets the whole connected mass of rooms as one room. Pierre -- gau do li'i co'e kei do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.