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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Sorry, but I find that a bizarre statement. To me that is like saying "how can gunka2 be inherent if the worker finishes the task and moves on to a different task" or "how can cusku2 be inherent if the speaker says something else?" They are inherent properties of a given train at a given space/time, just like any other terbri. [...] Content analysis details: (0.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 2.7 DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL RBL: Envelope sender listed in dnsbl.ahbl.org [listed in googlegroups.com.rhsbl.ahbl.org. 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To me that is like saying "how can gunka2 be inherent if the worker finishes the task and moves on to a different task" or "how can cusku2 be inherent if the speaker says something else?" They are inherent properties of a given train at a given space/time, just like any other terbri. --gejyspa On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > What if a train moves from one railroad to another one? > All places of any given brivla must be inherent and inseparable. How can > trene3 be inherent if usually train cars are constructed and trains can be > assembled without having any particular railroad in mind? > Sorry, but I find that a bizarre statement. To me that is like saying "how can gunka2 be inherent if the worker finishes the task and moves on to a different task" or "how can cusku2 be inherent if the speaker says something else?" 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=C2=A0 Sorry, but I find that a bizarre statement.=C2=A0 T= o me that is like saying "how can gunka2 be inherent if the worker fin= ishes the task and moves on to a different task" or "how can cusk= u2 be inherent if the speaker says something else?" =C2=A0They are inh= erent properties of a given train at a given space/time, just like any othe= r terbri.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa

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