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= 2015-02-05 1:50 GMT+03:00 Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>:
So maybe just give up and stop t= rying to have {trene} be a direct translation of "train" and just= think about what it means? :)

No, it's= the job of authors of dictionaries to provide definitions that won't b= e confusing for other people.

So if it's a caravan then let it be defined tha= t way in a better English style.

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