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On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Erik Natanael Gustafsson <
eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> You have nothing to fear. (I had difficulties with this one, how do you
> reference the concept of an emotion?)=
> .i lo krinu .ii na zasti
> .i lo se terpa be do na zasti
> .i lo se terpa pe do cu claxu lo krinu
>

The first one doesn't work because by using "ii" the speaker is expressing
fear, not talking about fear. The other two are fine. You could also say
something like "no da ckape", "no da te'apra", or just "ko na terpa" or "ko
terpa no da".

On his way to the store, Erik fell on a marble. =
> .i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci vau ca'o lonu ra klama le
> zaisle
>

For me that doesn't work because "ca'o" is the aspect of "farlu", not of
"klama", so it seems like you are talking about the time during the fall. (
~"Eric was falling when he went to the store.")  I would just use "ca lo nu
ra klama", or "ca lo nu ra ca'o klama". (But there are other opinions on
how to use ZAhOs as tags.)

When the bus left the stop, he kissed me tenderly in his thoughts. =
> .i iu. ra cinba mi ne'i lo menli vau ca'o lonu lo sorprekarce cu cliva
>

Same here, although in this case "he was kissing me in his thoughts when
the bus left" makes sense too.

The door locks itself automatically. =
> .i lo stela po le ganlo cu zmiku
>

Not sure why "po" here (I never use it). I would say "lo stela cu zmiku lo
ka ga'orbi'o".

With only one hand, Klas won the whole tournament. =
> .i la klas. pu jinga fo ro le terjvi se pi'o po'o pa lo xance
>

If "with only one hand" means "using only one hand", that works. If it
means "having only one hand", then "la klas noi se xance lo pa po'o xance
cu pu jinga..."

The others seem fine to me, well done!

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Erik Natanael Gustafsson <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>You have nothing to fear. (I had diffic=
ulties with this one, how do you reference the concept of an emotion?)=3D<b=
r>.i lo krinu .ii na zasti<br>.i lo se terpa be do na zasti<br>.i lo se ter=
pa pe do cu claxu lo krinu<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The fi=
rst one doesn&#39;t work because by using &quot;ii&quot; the speaker is exp=
ressing fear, not talking about fear. The other two are fine. You could als=
o say something like &quot;no da ckape&quot;, &quot;no da te&#39;apra&quot;=
, or just &quot;ko na terpa&quot; or &quot;ko terpa no da&quot;.</div><div>=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">On his way to the=
 store, Erik fell on a marble. =3D<br>.i la .erik. pu farlu ri&#39;a lo bol=
ci be lo rokci vau ca&#39;o lonu ra klama le zaisle<br></div></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>For me that doesn&#39;t work because &quot;ca&#39;o&quot=
; is the aspect of &quot;farlu&quot;, not of &quot;klama&quot;, so it seems=
 like you are talking about the time during the fall. ( ~&quot;Eric was fal=
ling when he went to the store.&quot;) =C2=A0I would just use &quot;ca lo n=
u ra klama&quot;, or &quot;ca lo nu ra ca&#39;o klama&quot;. (But there are=
 other opinions on how to use ZAhOs as tags.)</div><div><br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">When the bus left the stop, he kisse=
d me tenderly in his thoughts. =3D<br>.i iu. ra cinba mi ne&#39;i lo menli =
vau ca&#39;o lonu lo sorprekarce cu cliva<br></div></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>Same here, although in this case &quot;he was kissing me in his th=
oughts when the bus left&quot; makes sense too.</div><div><br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The door locks itself automaticall=
y. =3D<br>.i lo stela po le ganlo cu zmiku<br></div></blockquote><div><br><=
/div><div>Not sure why &quot;po&quot; here (I never use it). I would say &q=
uot;lo stela cu zmiku lo ka ga&#39;orbi&#39;o&quot;.</div><div><br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">With only one hand, Klas won =
the whole tournament. =3D<br>.i la klas. pu jinga fo ro le terjvi se pi&#39=
;o po&#39;o pa lo xance<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If &quot;=
with only one hand&quot; means &quot;using only one hand&quot;, that works.=
 If it means &quot;having only one hand&quot;, then &quot;la klas noi se xa=
nce lo pa po&#39;o xance cu pu jinga...&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>The =
others seem fine to me, well done!</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39=
;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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