Received: from mail-ie0-f191.google.com ([209.85.223.191]:40033) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YNfwg-0006C8-H8 for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:04:06 -0800 Received: by iecrl12 with SMTP id rl12sf8344659iec.7 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:03:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=JCPoQzRAgTw7ViUqrvc3QRH+YSYgdAMvBPpDuLXcoJ8=; b=P5aiX8bprOTaP8EE6l4jrRwUTlj+3PD3OBmFP1DN8Tqg0jwZA6h4qvi64oiu60uDQi 0H6/TLCV7suZo+szlyrSBbv6aihoTy2QYswhDUXN5DfYTErH2Bh0KFF2ueujX2CSzZRU ZpJEYuEPymtY72etReixErAoafdm8wF7iqxdXyOgMbflEinIHbkTJ8OQ10oi+/Kk4UiX ctlwFjuI47qOKsNuolz6GUNDZHUn6swfUyWqKP9hWa+A0Whlfy6yRh1HL0O+mn6bm2qv VPCqeNZdUQEg4QN0z0KeLqq6pefKFtjKHeR03OeQ9k9SpiEej8SQ7DQ8afCPEhPuAoQM GKdA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=JCPoQzRAgTw7ViUqrvc3QRH+YSYgdAMvBPpDuLXcoJ8=; b=Ktl6CPpNJvqA4hJ6ERyuHgCTwMvU+4xykdlwXaSEP9Z+GIlgIuRleOHGyj6kOIrq4Z WeR5zjNQlJEANrorWySVNzTmj2C70NBp9/xU55yaRDkYYTKOgmFdIZEk7W1ZbgCX7dQs /5wZWmMOzzYoCxk2fhjMEu/0DkqVvMPYIEyvmxnmlIdCfv+tXzD1YNNUO2P+Lj+kMWy0 5g5WO4oI9XUq++Uddxk/Tt9FRp2kXy54k/pPucix+zyxgVnuj5gaPcPtoxQ+sQ5YXLWI mfUHCEfQt+QugzQKKKct4iXY0fHvonpdIpq6gXkKdF+8/zegG16aI2YN6We9XEmhFfAM Qmhg== X-Received: by 10.140.94.74 with SMTP id f68mr308647qge.13.1424171036686; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:03:56 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.102.138 with SMTP id w10ls2766856qge.45.gmail; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:03:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.140.34.56 with SMTP id k53mr276448qgk.19.1424171036057; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:03:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 03:03:55 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Natanael Gustafsson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <6bdd8c4e-4d47-485f-8eba-92c42d94e3ed@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <095fb3fa-b04b-4ea2-b170-e8b261eeca7b@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A few sentences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_196_346016063.1424171035752" X-Original-Sender: eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3944 ------=_Part_196_346016063.1424171035752 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_197_106254765.1424171035752" ------=_Part_197_106254765.1424171035752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you for your thorough replies! .i mi kirsku fi lo do spuda noi tisna lo kevna pe lo se jimpe be mi A few follow up questions: What does "ga'orbi'o" mean? I can't seem to find it on jbovlaste. So ca'o can be defined as "bridi is continuously happening during sumti (event)" ? I am a bit confused by how the position of the ca'o changes its scope and effect. Does ".i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo rokci vau ca lo nu ra ca'o klama" mean that only the going is continuous? Also, is the use of vau correct and necessary here? Is there a better way to translate the sentence "Accompanied by the whisper of the trees, I dance." without using kansa and stressing that the dancing is a continuous event, because what I really mean is more like a musical accompaniment. I couldn't find a translation for tenderly, which is why I added iu. Would something like "ka racyju'i sepi'o lo ka prami" work and how would I insert it as an adverb? Also, could I stress the metaphorical meaning of "in his thoughts" by using pe'a like ".i iu. ra cinba mi pe'a ne'i lo menli vau ca lonu lo sorprekarce cu ca'o cliva" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_197_106254765.1424171035752 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for your thorough replies! .i mi kirsku fi lo do= spuda noi tisna lo kevna pe lo se jimpe be mi

A few follow up quest= ions:

What does "ga'orbi'o" mean? I can't seem to find it on jbovlas= te.

So ca'o can be defined as "bridi is continuously happening durin= g sumti (event)" ? I am a bit confused by how the position of the ca'o chan= ges its scope and effect. Does ".i la .erik. pu farlu ri'a lo bolci be lo r= okci vau ca lo nu ra ca'o klama" mean that only the going is continuous? Al= so, is the use of vau correct and necessary here?

Is there a better = way to translate the sentence "Accompanied by the whisper of the trees, I d= ance." without using kansa and stressing that the dancing is a continuous e= vent, because what I really mean is more like a musical accompaniment.
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I couldn't find a translation for tenderly, which is why I added iu. Wo= uld something like "ka racyju'i sepi'o lo ka prami" work and how would I in= sert it as an adverb? Also, could I stress the metaphorical meaning of "in = his thoughts" by using pe'a like ".i iu. ra cinba mi pe'a ne'i lo menli vau= ca lonu lo sorprekarce cu ca'o cliva"

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