Received: from mail-qk0-f192.google.com ([209.85.220.192]:34616) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Yl60C-0004vg-3d for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:30 -0700 Received: by qkbw1 with SMTP id w1sf915036qkb.1 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=GY8ff8U2orMMQIAGagTx9WUp5gMrm31LSpMBJaLurWc=; b=Qy1B6SduKKjXykZCXT9Sh8VYZgwTAlAk+OPs6odOg68zvN6U+TDCqQIgQd4N4q5IPW 3JMkYGuXBL4qr/3KopMjGdSOug4mxqT7D9GYYhzY3DgPz9/05LSvXMWWl/sKvNmHeUW0 H783ymjIL7hCpmNQoHYiHqmnGiv0FSR3VTbhGBlkF/+ITdsWH6A1xoIsp2JoeTFsCu0/ ugClJAfhFtKzQjF4zFrwGRLSfAdO012PXFzwHMkcnmb38M7ofXtTJAeV9NAfiXdIO2oE 8167KE9tj3Q7D1n3plwsvkGTu2064VjEIcYBFajP7o1sGCgeZ9hEUYzqKcgFVjGgKwBi L2AQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=GY8ff8U2orMMQIAGagTx9WUp5gMrm31LSpMBJaLurWc=; b=EzeHRRHndHVxTgAfOpnGtipxT4kdD1oguuthFPTryBYNvw+jvxi4ERJPO/O2IsLwqc td6q84MVnfSUrcov36EiIOAirsFtQgrLTMHyhYH4e/q4bm2Y5aiYRL1QvzSyKfHRK6R4 UeqoFaszJ+9+ukjIeJA60I0uQljOXx8jdv9maBBjx08HNWGoMvn7xQ/ZZewo2vOOfkjj tqH3HPZekLIbOAsoxXJnMgbBREw4t5L59+RrQiiWNdGfr37OWHGGLeNNO+tM7G8eUi27 i+LiBq8On6NCwEKeIlYWHkiS/9N94wqxMle2N2oaDoI5Vqb3FKNGny6l5EU1+6adzhDt H3dA== X-Received: by 10.140.107.69 with SMTP id g63mr3196qgf.31.1429752742124; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.22.100 with SMTP id 91ls984797qgm.5.gmail; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.83.165 with SMTP id j34mr3336qgd.23.1429752741662; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 18:32:21 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0afa96c2-0a24-4751-85ab-47831ad2973d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <55340DC0.7000106@gmail.com> References: <55340DC0.7000106@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What actually are the rules of word formation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_6457_1095009999.1429752741180" X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 2917 ------=_Part_6457_1095009999.1429752741180 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6458_2045682050.1429752741180" ------=_Part_6458_2045682050.1429752741180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 6:01:48 PM UTC-4, cirko wrote: > > > - a zihevla:=20 > - a vowel syllable=20 > - followed by any number of vowel, h-, or consonantal syllables=20 > - followed by a vowel- or h-syllable with no final consonant=20 > - is not a gismu or sequence of more than one rafsi=20 > - e.g. cpi,k=C3=B9,ku =C3=A0l,ga f=C3=AC,pr,koi gl=C3=A0u,ka spr= =C3=A0,'e=20 > So the only way to identify a zi'hevla is by stress? e.g. `cpiku ku` vs.=20 `cpikuku` --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_6458_2045682050.1429752741180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 6:01:48 PM UTC-4, cir= ko wrote:

- a zihevla:
   - a vowel syllable
   - followed by any number of vowel, h-, or consonantal syll= ables
   - followed by a vowel- or h-syllable with no final consona= nt
   - is not a gismu or sequence of more than one rafsi
   - e.g. cpi,k=C3=B9,ku  =C3=A0l,ga  f=C3=AC,pr,ko= i  gl=C3=A0u,ka  spr=C3=A0,'e

So the only way to identify a zi'hevla= is by stress? e.g. `cpiku ku` vs. `cpikuku`

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