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[2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t6si1008099wiz.0.2015.06.21.23.05.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::231; Received: by wgbhy7 with SMTP id hy7so131741206wgb.2 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:05:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.205.225 with SMTP id lj1mr48439519wjc.138.1434953112063; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:05:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:04:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 09:04:52 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Some questions after reading la .teris. 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How can changes > be made to it? I entered my standard look-up word (whiskey) in the Eng-Loj > section, and got only whiskey coffees. It turns out that the word "uiski" > has as its definition "x1 is whisk(e)y distilled from x2." That "(e)" > makes the word unfindable by normal search, and it makes "whisk" a separate > 'word'. > You are supposed to edit via jbovlaste.lojban.org interface. la sutysisku ( http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/i/en/index.html) uses jbovlaste database and is often updated, either once a month or more often on demand. However, I already fixed definitions of "whiskey". The la sutysisku app is yet to be improved, e.g. glosses are not being searched. This will hopefully be fixed another time. > stevo > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Erik Natanael Gustafsson < > eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> coi rodo >> >> I have just read through the CLL version of Terry the Tiger ( >> http://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.teris._po%27u_lo_tirxu_cu_vitke_zi%27o_le_barda_tcadu) >> having had to look up a lot of words. It left me with some questions that >> la sutsis or la jbovlaste couldn't answer: >> >> 1. Why all the "bo"s with cmavo in the beginning of bridis? For example >> .isemu'ibo/.ibabo/.iki'ubo. Don't these cmavo take the following sumti as >> an argument anyways? What have I missed? >> 2. jinvi - Is jinvi used for both having an opinion about something and >> believing something? Coming from Swedish where these concepts are quite >> separate, it seems like malglico, but perhaps it isn't. >> 3. When looking up pi'egre in la sutsis it has 6 places. 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2015-06-22 5:46 GMT+03:00 MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>:
Not directly related to the post, but rather to la sutsis. How = can changes be made to it? I entered my standard look-up word (whiskey) in = the Eng-Loj section, and got only whiskey coffees. It turns out that the wo= rd "uiski" has as its definition "x1=C2=A0is whisk(e)y distilled from x2." That "(e)" makes the word unfindable by norma= l search, and it makes "whisk" a separate 'word'.=C2=A0

You are supposed t= o edit via jbovlaste.lojban.org= interface. la sutysisku (http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/ilmentufa/i/en/index.h= tml) uses jbovlaste database and is often updated, either once a month = or more often on demand.

However, I already fixed = definitions of "whiskey". The la sutysisku app is yet to be impro= ved, e.g. glosses are not being searched. This will hopefully be fixed anot= her time.


st= evo

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 9:5= 5 AM, Erik Natanael Gustafsson <eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmai= l.com> wrote:
coi rodo
I have just read through the CLL version of Terry the Tiger (http://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.teris._po%2= 7u_lo_tirxu_cu_vitke_zi%27o_le_barda_tcadu) having had to look up a lot= of words. It left me with some questions that la sutsis or la jbovlaste co= uldn't answer:

1. Why all the "bo"s with cmavo in the = beginning of bridis? For example .isemu'ibo/.ibabo/.iki'ubo. Don= 9;t these cmavo take the following sumti as an argument anyways? What have = I missed?
2. jinvi - Is jinvi used for both having an opinion about some= thing and believing something? Coming from Swedish where these concepts are= quite separate, it seems like malglico, but perhaps it isn't.
3. Wh= en looking up pi'egre in la sutsis it has 6 places. How do we deal with= this?

di'ai co'o

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