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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bk2si288852wib.1.2015.07.02.06.30.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Jul 2015 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f; Received: by mail-wi0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id dq8so73732553wib.1 for ; Thu, 02 Jul 2015 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.172.130 with SMTP id bc2mr63064240wjc.85.1435843830205; Thu, 02 Jul 2015 06:30:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.221.167 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:29:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 16:29:50 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] jbovlaste definitions To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c634273d8ee0519e471ad X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_bar: --- Content-Length: 10315 --089e013c634273d8ee0519e471ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-07-02 15:19 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence < timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au>: > coi ro do > > Is this valid: "coi .i do sanji mo"? > > I was looking up words on http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ and there was no > definition for "and" in English. > Is it a question about jbovlaste, i.e. that it is confusing in not providing lojban translations of english words? or you jsut want to know how to say "and" in Lojban? The first question is a well known limitation of jbovlaste in being mostly a Lojban to "another language" dictionary interface. I'm solving this issue by providing an English to Lojban dictionary: http://mw.lojban.org/papri/L17-04 As for "and" most often words for it are {ce} and {e}. mi ce do casnu lo mlatu = I and you discuss cats (i.e. we discuss it with each other) mi e do casnu lo mlatu = I and you discuss cats. I other words, I discuss cats, and you discuss cats. Maybe, separately, i.e. with different people. In some dialects instead of {ce} you may use {jo'u}, instead of {e} you may use {je}. As for the most standard dialect of Lojban the CLL, chapter 14 logical connectives are explained in full. > I also got the following: > > No definitions found for "thing" > because it has many meanings in English. {lo dacti} is "thing", an object. No definitions found for "something" > again {lo dacti}, or {da} or {zo'e} > No definitions found for "fun" > No definitions found for "solve" > No definitions found for "fix" > No definitions found for "hum" > No definitions found for "biped" > No definitions found for "fungi" > No definitions found for "fungus" > No definitions found for "mycelium" > > I was wondering if anyone could fill these in for me. > well, okay. i will add them to my todo list. > > Recently, jbovlaste has had a lot of connection problems when I try to > connect (the lojban.org site itself, too). Currently I cannot connect to > either. Is there a local app version of jbovlaste? > http://vrici.lojban.org/~gleki/mediawiki-1.19.2/extensions/ilmentufa/i/en/index.html#sisku/coi > > Thanks :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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2015-07-02 15:19 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence <timothy= .lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au>:
coi ro do

Is this valid: "coi .i do sanji mo"?

I was looking up words on http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ and there was no definition for "and&= quot; in English.

Is it a q= uestion about jbovlaste, i.e. that it is confusing in not providing lojban = translations of english words?
or you jsut want to know how to sa= y "and" in Lojban?
The first question is a well known l= imitation of jbovlaste in being mostly a Lojban to "another language&q= uot; dictionary interface.
I'm solving this issue by providin= g an English to Lojban dictionary:

As for "and" most often words for it are {ce} and {e}.

mi ce do casnu lo mlatu =3D I and you discuss cats (= i.e. we discuss it with each other)

mi e do ca= snu lo mlatu =3D I and you discuss cats. I =C2=A0other words, I discuss cat= s, and you discuss cats. Maybe, separately, i.e. with different people.

In some dialects instead of {ce} you may use {jo'= u}, instead of {e} you may use {je}.

As for the mo= st standard dialect of Lojban the = CLL, chapter 14=C2=A0logical connectives are explained in full.


I also got the following:

No definitions found for "thing"
because it has many meanings in English. {lo dacti} is "thing", = an object.=C2=A0

No definitions found for "something"
=

again {lo dacti}, or {da} or {zo'e}

<= /div>
=C2=A0
No definitions found for "fun"
No definitions found for "solve"
No definitions found for "fix"
No definitions found for "hum"
No definitions found for "biped"
No definitions found for "fungi"
No definitions found for "fungus"
No definitions found for "mycelium"

I was wondering if anyone could fill these in for me.

well, okay. i will add them to my todo list.
=C2=A0

Recently, jbovlaste has had a lot of connection problems when I try to conn= ect (the lojban.org sit= e itself, too). Currently I cannot connect to either. Is there a local app = version of jbovlaste?

=C2=A0

Thanks :)

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