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(ce?) lo se dembi stani". I'm still not quite sure which "and" to use. I'm not sure either since i dont know the context. Likewise, one cannot translate "left" into Lojban because it has at least two meanings ("turn to the left" and "no sugar left"). But I suppose {la djak ce lo se dembi stani} is fine (Jack together with the Beanstalk). There's probably no context as it is the title of a story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>&= nbsp;
2015-07-03 5:44 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence <timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu= .au>:

At the moment, I am trying to translate "Jack and the Beanst= alk" (just that sentence, not the whole story) and I current= ly have "la djak. (ce?) lo se dembi stani". I'm still not quite s= ure which "and" to use.
I'm not sure either since i dont know the context. Likewise, one canno= t translate "left" into Lojban because it has at least two meanin= gs ("turn to the left" and "no sugar left").
But I suppose {la djak ce lo se dembi stani} is fine (Jack together with th= e Beanstalk).

There's probably no context as it is the title of a story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk

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