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Very often {ka} is translated using infinitives in English:

1. {mi gleki lo ka tavla do} =3D I am glad to talk to you.

Compare:
2. {mi gleki lo nu tavla do} =3D I am glad that someone is talking to you
(maybe that I talk to you but that isn't asserted).

We can rephrase the first example:

3. {mi gleki lo nu mi tavla do} =3D I am glad that I talk to you.

Obviously, the first and the third examples are almost the same in meaning.

2015-07-08 20:42 GMT+03:00 Leo Beltran <leobeltran@mail.com>:

> I=E2=80=99m now trying to learn abstractions (not as easy as I thought) a=
n I can=E2=80=99t
> see the differences between =E2=80=9Cmi gleki lo nu tavla do=E2=80=9D and=
 =E2=80=9Cmi gleki lo ka
> tavla do.=E2=80=9D For me they are the same. Do you agree?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Very often {ka} is translated using infinitives in English=
:<div><br></div><div>1. {mi gleki lo ka tavla do} =3D I am glad to talk to =
you.</div><div><br></div><div>Compare:</div><div>2. {mi gleki lo nu tavla d=
o} =3D I am glad that someone is talking to you (maybe that I talk to you b=
ut that isn&#39;t asserted).</div><div><br></div><div>We can rephrase the f=
irst example:</div><div><br></div><div>3. {mi gleki lo nu mi tavla do} =3D =
I am glad that I talk to you.</div><div><br></div><div>Obviously, the first=
 and the third examples are almost the same in meaning.</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2015-07-08 20:42 GMT+03:0=
0 Leo Beltran <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:leobeltran@mail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">leobeltran@mail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:100%" lang=3D"zxx">I=E2=80=99m no=
w
trying to learn abstractions (not as easy as I thought) an I can=E2=80=99t
see the differences between =E2=80=9Cmi gleki lo nu tavla do=E2=80=9D and =
=E2=80=9Cmi
gleki lo ka tavla do.=E2=80=9D For me they are the same. Do you agree?</p><=
span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
</font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">

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