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I am new in lojban. > I wonder how to say "to make something better" in lojban. > If you need literally a verb then {jai gau zenba fai SOMETHING lo ni xamgu} E.g. mi jai gau zenba fai lo dinju lo ni xamgu I make the house better. Of course we can have other rephrasings not necessarily imitating English word order: gau mi lo dinju cu zenba lo ni xamgu which would mean the same, although it sounds (although doesn't mean) something like "due to me the house increases in being good" There is also a verb xagzengau =3D xa (agent) improves x2, makes x2 better ... mi xagzengau lo dinju =3D I improve the house. although it requires learning one more word where is in the previous examples I used only core vocabulary. 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2015-07-14 19:27 GMT+03:00 Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak &l= t;mustafai= pekbayrak@gmail.com>:
Hi friends. I am new in lojban.
I wonder how to say "= to make something better" in lojban.

=
If you need literally a verb then {jai gau zenba fai SOMETHING l= o ni xamgu}

E.g.
mi jai gau zenba fai lo= dinju lo ni xamgu
I make the house better.

<= div>Of course we can have other rephrasings not necessarily imitating Engli= sh word order:
gau mi lo dinju cu zenba lo ni xamgu
whi= ch would mean the same, although it sounds (although doesn't mean) some= thing like "due to me the house increases in being good"

There is also a verb
xagzengau =3D xa (agent) im= proves x2, makes x2 better ...

mi xagzengau lo= dinju =3D I improve the house.

although it requir= es learning one more word where is in the previous examples I used only cor= e vocabulary.


Can anybody tell me?
Thank you.

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