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On 15 July 2015 at 17:58, Ian Johnson wrote: > The main causation words are {rinka},{mukti},{krinu}, and {nibli}. In you= r > example you would want {mukti}: > > A: .i ma mukti lo nu do co'e > B: .i tu'a do > > All four of these have short tags: {ri'a},{mu'i},{ki'u}, and {ni'i}. So > you can shorten the above to: > > A: .i mu'i ma do co'e > B: .i tu'a do > > with no loss. > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak < > mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I could not find any of why and for usage.My bad. >> >> Here is my example sentences in English. >> -why did you do that? >> -I did it for you. >> >> I think 'krinu' is the word to give an answer. >> >> On 15 July 2015 at 13:19, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 13:06:39 Mustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak wrote: >>> > Thank you very very much sir. I was think as I got the idea but I see >>> that >>> > I was not after to read your information. Thank you so much for your >>> time. >>> > Can I ask one more thing? I could not found any example about asking >>> "why" >>> > and answering with "for". How can we do that? >>> > Thank you. >>> >>> There are at least four ways to say "why" in Lojban, and there are >>> several >>> meanings of "for". Please give an example. >>> >>> Pierre >>> -- >>> .i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do >>> .ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga >>> .icu'u la ma'atman. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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thank you so much!
On 15 July 2015 at 17:58, Ian Johnson <b= lindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
The main causation words = are {rinka},{mukti},{krinu}, and {nibli}. In your example you would want {m= ukti}:

A: .i ma mukti lo nu do co'e
B: .i tu'= a do

All four of these have short tags: {ri'a},{mu'i},= {ki'u}, and {ni'i}. So you can shorten the above to:

A= : .i mu'i ma do co'e
B: .i tu'a do

with n= o loss.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Mu= stafa =C4=B0pekbayrak <mustafaipekbayrak@gmail.com> wrote:
I cou= ld not find any of why and for usage.My bad.

Here is my example sent= ences in English.
-why did you do that?
-I did it for you.
<= br>
I think 'krinu' is the word to give an answer.

On 15 Jul= y 2015 at 13:19, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
=
On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 13:06:39 M= ustafa =C4=B0pekbayrak wrote:
> Thank you very very much sir. I was think as I got the idea but I see = that
> I was not after to read your information. Thank you so much for your t= ime.
> Can I ask one more thing? I could not found any example about asking &= quot;why"
> and answering with "for". How can we do that?
> Thank you.

There are at least four ways to say "why" in Lojban, and t= here are several
meanings of "for". Please give an example.

Pierre
--
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.

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