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[207.46.100.87]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si19853igp.1.2015.08.24.18.50.47 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au designates 207.46.100.87 as permitted sender) client-ip=207.46.100.87; Received: from BL2PR01MB370.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.141.90.16) by BL2PR01MB370.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.141.90.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.231.21; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:50:46 +0000 Received: from BL2PR01MB370.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.141.90.16]) by BL2PR01MB370.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.141.90.16]) with mapi id 15.01.0231.024; Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:50:46 +0000 From: Timothy Lawrence To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" Subject: [lojban-beginners] Lojban attempt: please correct Thread-Topic: Lojban attempt: please correct Thread-Index: AQHQ3th1CbDIx3fzTUyD4I4X7mupAQ== Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:50:46 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-AU X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [203.206.161.117] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;BL2PR01MB370;5:NVfBQvpqSvcXKDDRJNsq3x3IdAP9cH0llo86PEbHgX6he0zOIJfufj8/sGN7RXTKFzyM9eSlLMeIdLQimEdZRzMiQtTGHWJrndBGUvHPl4eNGqIJpvmkrfMLtCIolxECOSdRVHNsFbcRj1cl7aVAPQ==;24:o4h5UrbkpaU2K/ecdvQ9O5nH+vFfJ1b+MvrldSBxVgIWJco6H+zVRKKpB2Ji9hJ4jRk2DNdfkFUMwC8j/8o3zwl1AUo8d1ZEMbX3lS3nvnE=;20:kpzbF4vWsUSpxSqGHxkJjVrTzbaWlhR4M5SKlYpl9U44onaddzNMZKJLUIQEQB2tyj8ORlhzjUi3TTUTAaUvGA== x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BL2PR01MB370; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001);SRVR:BL2PR01MB370;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BL2PR01MB370; x-forefront-prvs: 06793E740F x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(189002)(199003)(5001860100001)(64706001)(92566002)(2900100001)(77096005)(33656002)(4001540100001)(101416001)(97736004)(50986999)(5007970100001)(2501003)(66066001)(88552001)(68736005)(102836002)(189998001)(81156007)(2351001)(106356001)(107886002)(5001960100002)(110136002)(40100003)(5001830100001)(86362001)(54356999)(5004730100002)(87936001)(77156002)(5001920100001)(5003600100002)(450100001)(46102003)(74482002)(10400500002)(106116001)(122556002)(62966003)(105586002)(229853001)(2656002)(74316001)(5002640100001);DIR:OUT;SFP:1101;SCL:1;SRVR:BL2PR01MB370;H:BL2PR01MB370.prod.exchangelabs.com;FPR:;SPF:None;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: connect.qut.edu.au does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: connect.qut.edu.au X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Aug 2015 01:50:46.0392 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: dc0b52a3-68c5-44f7-881d-9383d8850b96 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BL2PR01MB370 X-Original-Sender: timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au designates 207.46.100.87 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=qut.edu.au Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_bar: -- Content-Length: 1322 I posted my Lojban attempt on #ckule yesterday: .za'a lo bangu cu tolxregau ma'a.i .ja'o lo nu remna cu gumgau ma'a.i .ei ma'a cilre ma'a Could someone correct it? I was trying to say the following: (I observe that) language separates you and me. (I deduce that) humanity unites you and me. We must learn one another. I am doubtful that my Lojban is correct (especially the last sentence). I used some vocabulary I found on jbovlaste but there's probably better words? deltab thought my attempt reads as "You know, languages unmix us. Therefore, being human aggregates us. We have to learn us." Does "ja'o" definitely translate to "therefore"? Because I wasn't intending on using it to link the two sentences. A few more questions: - How does one say "Does that make any sense?" in Lojban? - How does one say "How does one say (English) in Lojban?" in Lojban? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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