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[2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w129si899284ywa.2.2015.08.02.05.44.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Aug 2015 05:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236; Received: by mail-qg0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u79so73619602qge.1 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 05:44:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.44.73 with SMTP id f67mr18176850qga.88.1438519466570; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 05:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.23.177 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 05:44:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Where to start reading From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a9126ced354051c536935 X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 5232 --001a113a9126ced354051c536935 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 For the dotside point, in print we can specify word boundaries with spaces. Thus the dots can be safely omitted, but they are still included in the correct pronunciation. In speech you need the dots, period, because without them {la .latros. mo} (What does Latros do?) can become {la la .tros. mo} (Mo, who is associated with Tros, ...) mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio Bosshard < mauriciobosshard@gmail.com> wrote: > coi ro do > > I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I still feel I > have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text. Also, I > seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in lojban > grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't understand are > even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." the period in the > beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I was under the > impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this text is in an > older version of lojban. > > So what are good texts to start reading in people's opinions? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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For the dotside point, in print we can specify word b= oundaries with spaces. Thus the dots can be safely omitted, but they are st= ill included in the correct pronunciation. In speech you need the dots, per= iod, because without them {la .latros. mo} (What does Latros do?) can becom= e {la la .tros. mo} (Mo, who is associated with Tros, ...)

mi&= #39;e la latro'a mu'o

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Mauricio Bosshard <mauriciobosshard@gmail.com> wrote:
coi ro do

I'm more than halfway through the wave lessons, but I still feel I
have a really hard time dealing with an actual lojban text. Also, I
seem to remember hearing about a change that took place in lojban
grammar, so I am left wondering if the things I don't understand are even current. For example in "la .teris. ...." the period in the<= br> beginning of the name is not used except in the title. I was under the
impression this was mandatory, so I tend to think this text is in an
older version of lojban.

So what are good texts to start reading in people's opinions?

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