Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "la .xabltos." <hobbletoe@gmail.com>
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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Trying my first translation ... a few questions.
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Thank you again.  I'm really beginning to think that this will be much more 
rewarding than just copying some of the shorter texts and sorting through 
it.  This will really make me think about what I want to say and how I need 
to say it.

My next question is simple, I believe, and touches upon something said 
previously.

He has lost his ball.
.i ko'a pu cirko lo ko'a bolci

or 

.i ko'a pu cirko lo bolci

While talking about "his bark" yesterday, it was noted that ke'a was not 
really needed due to context.  Is it the same here?  Would I need ko'a when 
talking about "his" ball?

Another question deals with a ... I guess you would call it a split quote 
(and actually the same question from above).  

"Little Puppy," said Bird.  "You have lost your ball."

.i lu doi la cmalu cityge'u li'u se cusku la cipni .i lu do pu cirko lo do 
bolci li'u

Is this proper?  Do I have to mark Bird as saying the second sentence, or 
is that understood from context?  If it does need marked, to I do it at the 
beginning or the end of the sentence, or would that be a matter of 
preference?

One last question from  la selpa'i post.  He used the word zvajuko, ( ... 
te'a zvajuko lo keldai ) but I not quite sure what it means.  I know that 
zva is a rafsi form of zvati, but I haven't been able to figure out quite 
what juko would refer to.

Thank you again.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thank you again.=C2=A0 I&#39;m really beginning to th=
ink that this will be much more rewarding than just copying some of the sho=
rter texts and sorting through it.=C2=A0 This will really make me think abo=
ut what I want to say and how I need to say it.</div><div><br></div><div>My=
 next question is simple, I believe, and touches upon something said previo=
usly.</div><div><br></div><div>He has lost his ball.</div><div><font color=
=3D"#000000" style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">.i ko&#39;a pu=
 cirko lo ko&#39;a bolci</font></div><div><br></div><div>or </div><div><br>=
</div><div><font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">.i ko&#39;=
a pu cirko lo bolci</font></div><div><font style=3D"background-color: rgb(2=
04, 204, 204);"><br></font></div><div><font style=3D"background-color: rgb(=
255, 255, 255);">While talking about &quot;his bark&quot; yesterday, it was=
 noted that <font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">ke&#39;a<=
/font> was not really needed due to context.=C2=A0 Is it the same here?=C2=
=A0 Would I need <font style=3D"background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">ko&#=
39;a</font> when talking about &quot;his&quot; ball?</font></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Another question deals with a ... I guess you would call it a spl=
it quote (and actually the same question from above).=C2=A0 </div><div><br>=
</div><div>&quot;Little Puppy,&quot; said Bird.=C2=A0 &quot;You have lost y=
our ball.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div><font style=3D"background-color: r=
gb(204, 204, 204);">.i lu doi la cmalu cityge&#39;u li&#39;u se cusku la ci=
pni .i lu do pu cirko lo do bolci li&#39;u</font></div><div><font style=3D"=
background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br></font></div><div><font style=3D=
"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Is this proper?=C2=A0 Do I have to =
mark Bird as saying the second sentence, or is that understood from context=
?=C2=A0 If it does need marked, to I do it at the beginning or the end of t=
he sentence, or would that be a matter of preference?</font></div><div><br>=
</div><div>One last question from=C2=A0 la selpa&#39;i post.=C2=A0 He used =
the word zvajuko,=C2=A0( ... te&#39;a zvajuko lo keldai ) but I not quite s=
ure what it means.=C2=A0 I know that zva is a rafsi form of zvati, but I ha=
ven&#39;t been able to figure out quite what juko would refer to.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Thank you again.</div></div>

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