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[212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jv9si484782wid.0.2015.08.27.03.25.02 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([84.137.94.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MHnzh-1ZRt1U3OeL-003gJO for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:25:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban attempt: please correct To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: From: selpa'i Message-ID: <55DEE57D.3020605@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:25:01 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:i+2e+dnwjHUJ+cWf5+0KgmHxtJk2ErEIdhMnSts18KzylTc+cE/ A8wRr8cew3MFCA65OHs+irihyt3PR12AXISgXi4e72y+m2mlZlNhfcEFbNBG9VTld13GiRs uelfxDiFz7cEEakPi+6r7BlsQeDbWosGB3l0d7FXbfffsgNA3dcoq1veVSI8AJXbExCB+p6 ZOB2oDXRfkB7xh8DpUhmQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3PcByGIQ+eA=:LJUNQJSJOhmTN8y2Qf/WjO J4mN8Hzqk9tsdH5oi3tIbysiuJ2zsoVUGknu+3VPm2x6W9FRhc/oK5oUjmBmAtHLP4qUIK+li 4spDvWJNeg7jft/FElCREzWtk30Il2ssR+YS3TQnPGSGs1ULI6SCcq70/p4cXitaCDll/AFI0 t0jo5cSx/Ol9YpgnnXIL3C+4lo9VVTRhBRDFhYrmwRqVo5X4NAoUD3w0ZzE+Io7qovT5Tlk/v aH6ArkxKM2tnfbOy45PM2IIC1bp3Rx8Fb6Mr7qCTyltG3qziQUz2UnN5TSfQ9u5F9p7lW17xY 89V7PSB+LqGmlz3/VyJ8Mb+aW6NlPJWmnxyJKJyy+RZ9RKrBxhOubted5HmUsWrYD9MklKRwJ yO/oqtWZV+xeOxEKOXeRPSAL2rg06T7hnESJNL8kfK++kD1s74W2rRsDAvKjRjkIRGo68b6ZT F9ZlfbLfgle6+ZV6CBKrclt9ws84X17AlkuyeqxUM6k2Q54c+hBSKoBkDBxceTtztn31s5/23 aJvcJmeCyW03wrPdvFjd0a6GkyYiMeTV89iQdSWnOmXBQsx0MSQEWJAd1sTTtnB9kCaKA1ZXa RpqNRMyq2kJqohPvFYS9eiSyYD5xrz8152un08P2AcUMQ9e6AcBIAiHFTjx/rrDTaFtR5OduX XeHdSJAWYgwPvaWioAVUk2NyxRRm2az2/bGFYFMVvOpO1pACDRv18axLBZqaCbVfPVbSbhQ6/ WXJdCYrdgBltbvgdaA32UBcFXPrsLh9l5n+9Nw== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1198 la'o me. Timothy Lawrence .me cusku di'e > Are these also valid? > > * xu do jimpe > * xu do jimpe di'u > * mi'e lo cilre fi la.lojban. > * xu di'u smudra gejyspa already commented on the second sentence, but more importantly the third sentence is actually grammatically incorrect in that {fi la .lojban.} is a completely separate sumti from {lo cilre}. You have to use {be} to "inject" {fi la .lojban.} into {cilre} so that you are left with a single expression: {mi'e lo cilre be fi la .lojban.} "I am learner-about-Lojban." Similarly, {lo klama be lo tcadu} is a goer to the city, but {lo klama lo tcadu} is two sumti -- "A goer, a city". But you could also just say {mi cilre fi la .lojban.} instead of using {mi'e}. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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