Received: from mail-ig0-f184.google.com ([209.85.213.184]:34266) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZcXtA-0002w6-Oc for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:15 -0700 Received: by igbbp9 with SMTP id bp9sf2854052igb.1 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=HXmu64EX6PSOFB6HU9Qsma4u0SZreKrInCmp9EGKU8A=; b=WOfX2W007XK/Qm+BaqDm8OzgjyMm69zGUG9+1u92GuEXwONKAu+trNmtfnYN0jSarU 2vECkab6Sn89BsAkaatyGD0o/UpVXEj7vqBUMPYcmP1/5Qr2kW+m6TRD9jXbXicO9O/Y ezmExMCqt/EKEPFN2RfauLVTRY9FDJ8uH/xbc272igEcy8XoOCo2HJe6ncfyTDoPnywq 0rfB91iZx7i934WYg88dBf9BBMBWlbZ9jgcFpL98icI4tcnPEMQcPAGYOcIaQ8iqxs2T 4UrOEy7AKjn6n6wLpuhOS0OGkKOv5RcWp5zHiUCSw7wHoFNizGBdP09sP+Q07ST2dxri T7LA== X-Received: by 10.50.152.97 with SMTP id ux1mr232988igb.0.1442491323093; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.11.197 with SMTP id 66ls213887iol.10.gmail; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.131.73 with SMTP id f70mr3023212iod.18.1442491322159; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si208602igp.1.2015.09.17.05.02.01 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 17 Sep 2015 05:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ZujUdbLG c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:117 a=tu8v4/BYpNWK47pT606GYA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ff-B7xzCdYMA:10 a=-DBjEZDUBbukJpqzoxAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 173.95.140.180 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [173.95.140.180] ([173.95.140.180:57423] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 19/C8-08210-9BBAAF55; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:02:01 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F116D4D00 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:01:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] klama Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:01:56 -0400 Message-ID: <6841974.vC9XkMjLoQ@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-62-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1060 On Thursday, September 17, 2015 13:14:42 Remo Dentato wrote: > {klama} should only be for physical movement. If we accept {kibro} as a > valid gismu (which is something I happily do), I would use {kibycpa} I'd use {kibycpa} for "download" and {kibycta} for looking at a web page. {klama} requires a destination, an origin, a route, and a means of transport. You aren't going from an origin to a destination when you view a web page. The packets containing the web page do muvdu (not sure about {klama} as I don't see a vehicle involved). Pierre -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.