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[212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x9si181356wiy.1.2015.09.01.08.33.01 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Sep 2015 08:33:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from [192.168.2.118] ([93.220.97.192]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MbrR4-1ZEZwo3Wr8-00JGzL for ; Tue, 01 Sep 2015 17:33:00 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Trying my first translation ... a few questions. To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <76a5b632-69f7-42af-9f57-c66a889b8044@googlegroups.com> <55DDE77F.8010804@gmx.de> <80479aa0-ebcc-4105-9a9d-0850992de1c9@googlegroups.com> <054ae82a-9842-47bb-8fab-48f57d4684c0@googlegroups.com> <55E18124.6020108@gmx.de> <824e08b0-06c1-4003-8192-c092db492410@googlegroups.com> From: selpa'i Message-ID: <55E5C52A.1080304@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:32:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9xQtIrWKkBzWeU8z4VSnP8nBUhqkZSICXVZ4aqoiiW34tzi4tIc My8R/7DqSo7BaGMkKm8mzlDOwuMvtSD1H2wtYJUenpnPnP/SQKLQnia1t+DBVKBaZq9vTAN 5Lbmnuf67dEyLQZgUtvF0xtTPedRZHDQSDM9CCR1uaWkogLJIPYU+4a96qDAKYI64Th7Noy 9vQM16dVM4wD2BCLni4fQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:m5vY0por+7s=:zRh5790mQ4AG8SQOx4mvbS Mlt4VrfyCvpawWVNJFAbds7Fb72sm+tnBvH8pxZ/ABTlDcJJoTLZ8RW8AaZbyA7naC2G0yUMT sUy2OrWbsFUCWeYKPygw+IOIvCRmLmrHn9kT934Fwmins1l7CrFfXfftGet4vDJtOqRsjvi+O Fd+1KAIIZt4w9yzLjEdg0d8+9TBwx4VV/QswZg+DyVi+n7DF8IAyvEu3NHBx10fsAwGn+PrzL yhzsfvZOUfLtg4Io20JVb65UV65j9/OtxKeL2uTGkbPJHCfCrvNduHw8MNGyoLQkRZT/cfZes 8gzVHoZdrirowRbSb4A98kJMTiCqIV9yBAFmgNqsKa4rDGdRGIOC2rOJfKs7mJWMmTWUANQjY 8wZz5KBG4i1clron7ej0Jr291H9wVFSvt+l+22rjkzYupW0+yaiGN9yvS6n5QqoUcJwZmWOF+ szYIBCy1JW5I8lPuNhRNrBLW4ErwbpIxJGLwGP8S61YQXkQfmMlQWzqRPQZonIDXMZxAKRYZd frqLAH906n/mdP2+sA/3JX3oXeqtfqr90ju3EyWPk1saAqf6d2JkcB7lVjkJ5V5d7hBD2MUzO N3wuBLjb0gK2EWIwfZ/ncQqb8Ij8OSBdlc0n1u/+zTLJxY2USsYacp7DjgwVI0iaCNUSAQOwZ v2feOSm1Cqgi27O+j81+q5vvk7jvOIR32zB4TTUK+xSB/biUX7yRksp1+dHdi8Np7OV4JD6mW NoNdIKO+8Zw2dZzJlpn3b9m5/YiyGvhbd/RcKw== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1019 la gejyspa cu cusku di'e > Now, you will also notice I used "tu'a lo ko'a gercmo" instead of > "lo ka ko'a gercmo". There is two reasons I did this. First, I do > prefer to use tu'a X when seraching for an object (as it says in > jbovlaste). And secondly, because "lo ka ko'a gercmo" does not mean " the > property of his bark", but in fact means "the property of him being a > barker" (because the ko'a is now part of the bridi "ko'a gercmo" (he > barks), not a possessive like it was before, without the ka. But {lo ko'a gercmo} means "ko'a's barker". Who is his barker? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.