Received: from mail-ig0-f183.google.com ([209.85.213.183]:33288) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Zxvgo-0005v3-KN for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:50 -0800 Received: by igvi2 with SMTP id i2sf13519778igv.0 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=pOVCbmVwFROvsXimnz5L2ctsce74SgHpfd6UItEnV38=; b=VFlygyGRlLzJXdRolkr7IqcDVpuLWi3ZM6Do/xDQYpL/0kDq0shJ1xZ/A3X9tyZlo5 IqDcqBkTo/B/kP7iOneIk3GflWz+Hjl4IklDEVryCQkvrvmnyUJGLELbNW46tGJ2DhEC 46jI7DyDlf7NSpHQakI8nXLcR6eHmh6Z8i/n+KlSNrA0TADH+DYWR2bu8wgAiyumQelB H7tzU+tatM9j03wENeDVKNkeMKfV789YB3OtXvlZmdyCpzgFlyL9GwWHHI+YG3drpj46 e4UYId0hHSOMFcFp2WMjt6zfhgSBKSfk3mnWwy4Mc4C/j0U8ohZ2YZrAJNwhXKhK1n5H LsRw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=pOVCbmVwFROvsXimnz5L2ctsce74SgHpfd6UItEnV38=; b=cCJxxgBwZintIpOKHG16LQBK/+Z8oEXAuks1L2V4fPN+94xu87NdU7f+k5il4c88dO 2TFBxx7DYp7UbE+s0+7kLSN2WehU/Gpfub2R4iEiuwjLoCNNVzBJ5VyRYGv00VJHealZ HwPSDryJ78z+ak1LtzZzz4k3kDIBOHqfNlIqxScvx+iW0jev1yKyvNjXSQLTabUJSXdS TDzAmeTfbKOIPDOAG+5PsXyIGkjQka58VqlqLk1Y/CUQDIB2NgwT5YlkDd+Ga9vtUzHl yiqcwLRKZoBm2hUmX9jnZBiXz+kbHDEYG5VFZ45fgaZiAH94ozaA2YGk2ZC4MYCk9hIK eJyA== X-Received: by 10.182.246.66 with SMTP id xu2mr278498obc.18.1447587700829; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.165.35 with SMTP id yv3ls742199obb.97.gmail; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.129.198 with SMTP id ny6mr280369obb.6.1447587698856; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:41:38 -0800 (PST) From: Erik Natanael Gustafsson To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <38ae1d98-6c1c-402a-bf9c-403245c162b0@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Translations of quotes for my next piece MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_808_2000212176.1447587698280" X-Original-Sender: eriknatanaelgustafsson@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 4232 ------=_Part_808_2000212176.1447587698280 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_809_920124011.1447587698280" ------=_Part_809_920124011.1447587698280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:21:50 PM UTC+1, guskant wrote: > > > 2015-11-14 13:15 GMT+00:00 Erik Natanael Gustafsson: > > 3. Konfucius: "Wherever you go, go with all your heart." > > 3. .i ko klama ma kau ka'ai lo mulno cnize'i po'e do > > What is the original text? If it is an English translation of "=E6=97=A2= =E6=9D=A5=E4=B9=8B=E5=88=99=E5=AE=89=E4=B9=8B j=C3=AC=20 > l=C3=A1i zh=C4=AB z=C3=A9 =C4=81n zh=C4=AB", you cite a very bad translat= ion. I would translate the=20 > original text into Lojban as follows: > > (.i) ba'o klama ti .i na ja ko'oi panpi ti > > where the experimental cmavo {ko'oi} of UI is intended to span over the= =20 > sentence connective {i na ja}. > > Okay, I unfortunately don't know any Chinese so I cannot comment on the= =20 accuracy of the translation. I can't wrap my head around your Lojban=20 translation either though, specifically the "na ja ko'oi" part and what=20 happens to the x1 of both selbri, that is who does the going and being at= =20 peace? Could you give me an explanation or an English translation? co'o mi'e la natnainiel --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_809_920124011.1447587698280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 10:21:50 PM UTC+= 1, guskant wrote:

2015-11-14 13:15 GMT+00:00 Erik Natanael Gustafsson= :
> 3. Konfucius: "Wherever you go, go with all your hear= t."
> 3. .i ko klama ma kau ka'ai lo mulno cnize'= i po'e do

What is the original text? If it is = an English translation of "=E6=97=A2=E6=9D=A5=E4=B9=8B=E5=88=99=E5=AE= =89=E4=B9=8B j=C3=AC l=C3=A1i zh=C4=AB z=C3=A9 =C4=81n zh=C4=AB", you = cite a very bad translation. I would translate the original text into Lojba= n as follows:

(.i) ba'o klama ti .i na ja ko&#= 39;oi panpi ti

where the experimental cmavo {ko= 9;oi} of UI is intended to span over the sentence connective {i na ja}.

Okay, I unfortunately don't kn= ow any Chinese so I cannot comment on the accuracy of the translation. I ca= n't wrap my head around your Lojban translation either though, specific= ally the "na ja ko'oi" part and what happens to the x1 of bot= h selbri, that is who does the going and being at peace? Could you give me = an explanation or an English translation?

co'o mi'e la natna= iniel

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;Lojban Beginners" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lo= jban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners.
For more options, visit http= s://groups.google.com/d/optout.
------=_Part_809_920124011.1447587698280-- ------=_Part_808_2000212176.1447587698280--