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[212.227.17.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g21si143462wmd.3.2015.11.16.11.35.38 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Nov 2015 11:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.22; Received: from [192.168.2.128] ([93.220.119.152]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGB7j-1aCOL83HKp-00F8Ja for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:35:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Second batch of sentences To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <6cfdbe37-e965-40e0-ab33-4080e01c00f2@googlegroups.com> From: selpahi Message-ID: <564A300B.6090900@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2015 20:35:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6cfdbe37-e965-40e0-ab33-4080e01c00f2@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iwD7hZLahvJh8IY2QaleoXmuwrqsPpCGBx5d7viEg0fOqx/TscM H610TmHAVMo/RRJiuF3XMBvHf8oaeBiQ+q//DuaIN3A3q6iH6D64N5sEAmJGYPaQ7gFVbsP czn9yQ61MelW+k2n+Np4XfM//TVLvmLnXDbsNo/MZkgEmz4Ppt+ghWgnoF8Z+Ayf9UKFM0/ sCfJNd50/WyniPt4Aj0zg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:wjjgdM1DMG4=:eRN2xgYxiE/PPXCxA8ZArM 05/HHlFHew1NXPov/bPIO9wHqQHuEc88EohOYCNvOMMTfVAAYu4b+o9PkPC/Yu2K3aMTIu4Pr D56p84XN75b00JEnuBmDVUwhY6Cqoor22kRgsDwT5L/4q2BwLn66wtBJewbnktK8+PEl1gEC1 iWfbjN47l13IrOliwPvdBCuzqWADneDcSM2rxwof8YdRJ9E5jSoBZHKQUjjNbXI8adQo3/chs nhW0tlTO6AGtDKTOIDNxtyxP/1wnhbU/j7uZN5SJa7QM/+3ycsgKjZJCHJx8J4ubjtWDAqSVN g42i/X3+HCih7z6+KiXPgEQvwKHeSG4+WFA7/auOACtkuOjcDOPTXtoVOo+jZ70vmMQaV78qf dwAzOtypxP6cOAbUXWPsmVwfDKVnBqN2DSRcFbaUlkmWq2j+auOfTSVexcX69UzyDWqCMglav wmUlRs9IL4OdYdwKXkRC9mlcatPfeyGCZDr6AcIad1eGJWoEy2nVMae3UspNXw9n828JEFHEv WUj2vnElXmw4f1nreLFjZlPuv3+WvL405ViNbySRqSQQeCDa1rZLoeNd+aFVTZrt3jRLDqO6c dlEQehcU2PNN5JdGCCh5oIp5UZZ6cr0x5EavMkmIAzaLce0CQZg73MJBZ5NRdDprcSEKe2pvL +ciTPOWwKS9AAoRa0FUiHgTdcH85rg4HGAcX8XydXug72H5kMsnk9fqhUw2Njh4rSp5wJprQ/ S1nu2OfF7oaCaKIDNW5xRTd186FkBXBRRbb1gfymHfZ9rJKKA7ANnVpzkXOAuJ+lZys8yHShO VcPF6lW X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1625 On 16.11.2015 20:01, Erik Natanael Gustafsson wrote: > 7. .i loi gunka goi ko'a cu ba cirko no da enai lo ko'a linsi .i ko'a > cumki jinga lo munje That means "they will lose nothing and they will not lose their chains". {cumki jinga} should be {ka'e jinga}. Here's a possible translation: no da po'u nai tu'a lo linsi zo'u lo gunka ka'e cirko da .i ku'i ra ka'e tolcirko tu'a lo munje You can move {lo gunka} first and remove the prenex, but make sure to keep {no da} in front of {ka'e}: lo gunka no da po'u nai tu'a lo linsi ka'e cirko > 8. .i mi'o cu ca zmadu tilcfu casnu ba'e lo ka zasti damba Unnecessary {cu}, and I assume you used {ba'e} for the capitalization. Use {la} instead, e.g. {casnu la nundamba pe lo ka zasti}. > 9. .i e'o ma'a roroi simxu penmi sepi'o lo cisma mu'i lo cisma cu krasi > lo ka prami {lo cisma} is someone who smiles, I'd say {lo nuncisma}. After {mu'i} it has to be {lo nu} to wrap the sentence into a sumti so that it can be the argument of {mu'i}. My stab: ko'oi ma'a ro roi pensi'u fau lo nuncisma .i ki'u bo lo nuncisma cu tolfa'o lo nunprami (instead of {nun-} you can always use {nu} if you want) mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.