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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mu6si243715igb.1.2016.01.30.18.37.00 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 30 Jan 2016 18:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=UtNaaYAB c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=7aQ_Q-yQQ-AA:10 a=twxgj_de6zCPwHiWQ2AA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of leaf.dragonflybsd.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:45949] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 86/02-05536-A437DA65; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:37:00 -0500 Received: from zyxomma.ixazon.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4210F71E1 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:36:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Quantities To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <3942d7ef-d2fa-4c30-92f6-e336cdd0887d@googlegroups.com> From: Pierre Abbat Message-ID: <56AD733E.6050408@leaf.dragonflybsd.org> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 02:36:46 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; DragonFly x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3942d7ef-d2fa-4c30-92f6-e336cdd0887d@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Original-Sender: phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1548 On 01/31/16 01:43 AM, la .tamar. wrote: > coi > > Does /so'e le mu mlatu/ mean most of 5 cats, e.g. 4 of 5 cats, or most > of a cat of 5 cats, e.g. most of 1 cat out of the 5 I am talking about, > or most of all the cats out of the 5 I am talking about (e.g. they are > all missing tails or something)? It means "most (4) of 5 cats". "Most of one of the 5 cats" would be "piso'e le mu mlatu"; "piso'e lei mu mlatu" means "most of the 5 cats", and is vague among interpretations like "4.5 of the cats" and "all but the tails of all the cats". > Similar thing here: > > Does /pa fi'u re lo ro mlatu /mean half of all cats, half a cat out of > all cats, or all cats cut in half? "pafi'ure lo ro mlatu" means half a cat out of all cats. "pafi'ure loi ro mlatu" means half of all cats, which could be one individual out of each pair of cats, or the left side of all male cats and the right side of all female cats, or any similar interpretation. For half of the individuals, I'd say "rofi'ure lo ro mlatu" or "pa lo'e re mlatu" Those are my thoughts; I'm not sure that everyone else would agree. Pierre -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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