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To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <4d6a4bd9-31b6-4559-a9bb-341338f5670d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <56AD733E.6050408@leaf.dragonflybsd.org> References: <3942d7ef-d2fa-4c30-92f6-e336cdd0887d@googlegroups.com> <56AD733E.6050408@leaf.dragonflybsd.org> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Quantities MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2547_1185435064.1454211884579" X-Original-Sender: tama.austin@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed Content-Length: 4609 ------=_Part_2547_1185435064.1454211884579 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2548_743559838.1454211884579" ------=_Part_2548_743559838.1454211884579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thank you. that makes things clearer :) On Sunday, 31 January 2016 15:37:03 UTC+13, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On 01/31/16 01:43 AM, la .tamar. wrote: > > coi > > > > Does /so'e le mu mlatu/ mean most of 5 cats, e.g. 4 of 5 cats, or most > > of a cat of 5 cats, e.g. most of 1 cat out of the 5 I am talking about, > > or most of all the cats out of the 5 I am talking about (e.g. they are > > all missing tails or something)? > > It means "most (4) of 5 cats". "Most of one of the 5 cats" would be > "piso'e le mu mlatu"; "piso'e lei mu mlatu" means "most of the 5 cats", > and is vague among interpretations like "4.5 of the cats" and "all but > the tails of all the cats". > > > Similar thing here: > > > > Does /pa fi'u re lo ro mlatu /mean half of all cats, half a cat out of > > all cats, or all cats cut in half? > > "pafi'ure lo ro mlatu" means half a cat out of all cats. "pafi'ure loi > ro mlatu" means half of all cats, which could be one individual out of > each pair of cats, or the left side of all male cats and the right side > of all female cats, or any similar interpretation. For half of the > individuals, I'd say "rofi'ure lo ro mlatu" or "pa lo'e re mlatu" > > Those are my thoughts; I'm not sure that everyone else would agree. > > Pierre > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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Thank you. that makes things clearer :)

On Sunday, = 31 January 2016 15:37:03 UTC+13, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On 01/31/16 01:43 AM, la .tamar. wrote:
> coi
>
> Does /so'e le mu mlatu/ mean most of 5 cats, e.g. 4 of 5 cats,= or most
> of a cat of 5 cats, e.g. most of 1 cat out of the 5 I am talking a= bout,
> or most of all the cats out of the 5 I am talking about (e.g. they= are
> all missing tails or something)?

It means "most (4) of 5 cats". "Most of one of the 5 cat= s" would be=20
"piso'e le mu mlatu"; "piso'e lei mu mlatu"= means "most of the 5 cats",=20
and is vague among interpretations like "4.5 of the cats" and= "all but=20
the tails of all the cats".

> Similar thing here:
>
> Does /pa fi'u re lo ro mlatu /mean half of all cats, half a ca= t out of
> all cats, or all cats cut in half?

"pafi'ure lo ro mlatu" means half a cat out of all cats. = "pafi'ure loi=20
ro mlatu" means half of all cats, which could be one individual ou= t of=20
each pair of cats, or the left side of all male cats and the right side= =20
of all female cats, or any similar interpretation. For half of the=20
individuals, I'd say "rofi'ure lo ro mlatu" or "= pa lo'e re mlatu"

Those are my thoughts; I'm not sure that everyone else would agree.

Pierre

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