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Can you provide any explanation? > > 1. Your camxes-experimental parser does not parse even {la teris} written= =20 in basic lojban suitable for beginners, either the old version or the new= =20 one. https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.teris._po'u_lo_tirxu_cu_vitke_zi'o_le_barda= _tcadu https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.teris._ku_noi_tigra_cu_stuvi'e_lo_barda_tca= du 2. You said you would not select backward incompatible changes, but your=20 camxes-experimental parser is incompatible with the official grammar for=20 cmevla as selbrisle. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/oriGf4t1_Xc/eSljctvEDAAJ 3. You destroyed all the ilmentufa parsers in the first two weeks of this= =20 year by modifying preproc.js. https://github.com/lagleki/glekitufa/commit/9dbe1756b016ea567d23e2f0b1201c3= 2bf817a32#commitcomment-15414073 Such a problem may occur again anytime in the future as long as you=20 continue executing your dictatorship on the lojban.org server. 4. The solutions for the problem 1 and the problem 2 are incompatible, so= =20 you have no way to solve all the problems.=20 Don't disturb anymore this thread for the defects of your=20 camxes-experimental parser. If you have any objection, continue it on the= =20 general lojban list, not on the beginner's list. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_4226_1044030259.1454322447202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Le lundi 1 f=C3=A9vrier 2016 06:34:25 UTC, la glek= i a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

2016-01-30 17:42 GMT+03:00 gus= kant <gusni...@gmail.com>:
I recommend using camxes for teaching beginners, not the c= anxes-experimental that was deteriorated by la gleki.
I'm not aware it was deteriorated by me. Can you provide any explanati= on?



1. Your camxes-experimental parser does not parse even {la teris} writte= n in basic lojban suitable for beginners, either the old version or the new= one.
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.teris._po'u_lo_tirxu_cu= _vitke_zi'o_le_barda_tcadu
https://mw.lojban.org/papri/la_.te= ris._ku_noi_tigra_cu_stuvi'e_lo_barda_tcadu

2.= You said you would not select backward incompatible changes, but your camx= es-experimental parser is incompatible with the official grammar for cmevla= as selbrisle.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/oriGf4t1_Xc= /eSljctvEDAAJ

3. You destroyed all the ilmentu= fa parsers in the first two weeks of this year by modifying preproc.js.
https://github.com/lagleki/glekitufa/commit/9dbe1756b016ea567d23e2f0= b1201c32bf817a32#commitcomment-15414073
Such a problem may occur = again anytime in the future as long as you continue executing your dictator= ship on the lojban.org server.

4. The solutions fo= r the problem 1 and the problem 2 are incompatible, so you have no way to s= olve all the problems.=C2=A0

Don't disturb any= more this thread for the defects of your camxes-experimental parser. If you= have any objection, continue it on the general lojban list, not on the beg= inner's list.

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