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On 25/05/2016 05:04, Timothy Lawrence wrote:
>
> Yes, but "za'o" can't be used in Lojban for both that word /and/ its=20
> structural class because Lojban has only one definition per word.
>
>
> In particular, how is this answered in Lojban?
>
>
> ma selma'o zo za'o
>
>
> (I hope that's correct Lojban?)
>
>
> And what are the other word classes?
>

In order to talk about cmavo belonging to a particular selmaho in=20
Lojban, you can either:
=E2=80=A2 use {lo cmavo be lo se cmavo be zo za'o} (=3D "the cmavo of the s=
ame=20
selmaho as {za'o}), or {lo selma'o dunli be zo za'o} (=3D "the things=20
equal to {za'o} in their selmaho");
=E2=80=A2 or use the experimenetal cmavo {ma'oi}=20
<http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ma%27oi>, which belongs to the ZO=20
selmaho (thus, same grammatical behavior as {zo}):  {lo cmavo be ma'oi=20
za'o} =3D "the cmavo of selmaho ZAhO".

Here's a nice mindmap that classifies selmaho:
=E2=80=A2 https://mind42.com/mindmap/03d7fb74-986c-4418-bb14-2dfb86d21dbc

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

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    On 25/05/2016 05:04, Timothy Lawrence wrote:<br>
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        <p><span>Yes, but "<span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial,
              Helvetica, sans-serif, 'Apple Color Emoji', 'Segoe UI
              Emoji', NotoColorEmoji, 'Segoe UI Symbol', 'Android
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            can't be used=C2=A0in Lojban for both that word <i>and</i> its
            structural=C2=A0class because Lojban has only one definition pe=
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            word.</span></p>
        <p><span><br>
          </span></p>
        <p><span>In particular, how is this answered in Lojban?</span></p>
        <p><span><br>
          </span></p>
        <p><span>ma=C2=A0selma'o zo za'o</span><br>
        </p>
        <p><span><br>
          </span></p>
        <p><span>(I hope that's correct Lojban?)</span></p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <p>And what are the other word classes?<br>
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    In order to talk about cmavo belonging to a particular selmaho in
    Lojban, you can either:<br>
    =E2=80=A2 use {lo cmavo be lo se cmavo be zo za'o} (=3D "the cmavo of t=
he same
    selmaho as {za'o}), or {lo selma'o dunli be zo za'o} (=3D "the things
    equal to {za'o} in their selmaho");<br>
    =E2=80=A2 or use the experimenetal cmavo <a
      href=3D"http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ma%27oi">{ma'oi}</a>, which
    belongs to the ZO selmaho (thus, same grammatical behavior as
    {zo}):=C2=A0 {lo cmavo be ma'oi za'o} =3D "the cmavo of selmaho ZAhO".<=
br>
    <br>
    Here's a nice mindmap that classifies selmaho:<br>
    =E2=80=A2 <a
      href=3D"https://mind42.com/mindmap/03d7fb74-986c-4418-bb14-2dfb86d21d=
bc"><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://mind42.com/mindmap/0=
3d7fb74-986c-4418-bb14-2dfb86d21dbc">https://mind42.com/mindmap/03d7fb74-98=
6c-4418-bb14-2dfb86d21dbc</a></a><br>
    <br>
    mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o<br>
    <br>
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