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[2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kq1si609299igb.1.2016.05.24.22.44.42 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 May 2016 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e; Received: by mail-oi0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id w184so54952591oiw.2 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.202.98.133 with SMTP id w127mr1016136oib.136.1464155082694; Tue, 24 May 2016 22:44:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.122.42 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2016 22:44:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Turniansky Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 01:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] List of Lojban words for its grammatical classes To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d356499a5c10533a42b99 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 11711 --001a113d356499a5c10533a42b99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Timothy Lawrence < timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au> wrote: > Yes, but "za'o" can't be used in Lojban for both that word *and* its > structural class because Lojban has only one definition per word. > > > In particular, how is this answered in Lojban? > > > ma selma'o zo za'o > > > (I hope that's correct Lojban?) > la'e zo za'o I think is probably the correct answer, although I'm not sure that's quite been settled by the lojbanic community. > And what are the other word classes? > Well the front page of vlasisku ( http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ ) give you a nice cloud of them --gejyspa ------------------------------ > *From:* lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com < > lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 May 2016 12:14 PM > *To:* lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [lojban-beginners] List of Lojban words for its > grammatical classes > > In terms of the grammatical classes, they use capital letters just to > stand out more. "h" is the capital version of ' So, ZAhO is the > grammatical class typidifed by the word za'o > --gejyspa > > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Timothy Lawrence < > timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au> wrote: > >> What are the words for the available "grammatical classes" or "selma'o" >> in Lojban? >> >> I see use of terms like "ZAhO" in English descriptions of Lojban but this >> must be ungrammatical in Lojban (which is all lowercase except for >> nonstandard stress, as far as I am aware)? >> >> How are these discussed in Lojban? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Timotheos >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Timothy Lawrence &l= t;= timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au> wrote:

Yes, but "za'o" can't be used=C2=A0in Lojban for bot= h that word and its structural=C2=A0class because Lojban has only one= definition per word.


In particular, how is this answered in Lojban?


ma=C2=A0selma'o zo za'o


(I hope that's correct Lojban?)


=C2=A0
la'e zo za'o =C2=A0I thin= k is probably the correct answer, although I'm not sure that's quit= e been settled by the lojbanic community.

=C2=A0

And what are the other word classes?

=C2=A0 Well the front page of vlasisku ( http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ ) give you a nice cloud = of them =C2=A0


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa

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From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com <lojban-b= eginners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com= >
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2016 12:14 PM
To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] List of Lojban words for its grammat= ical classes
=C2=A0
=C2=A0In terms of the grammatical classes, they use capita= l letters just to stand out more. =C2=A0"h" is the capital versio= n of ' So, ZAhO is the grammatical class typidifed by the word za'o
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa


On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Timothy Lawren= ce <timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au> wrote:
What are the words for the available "grammatical classes" or &qu= ot;selma'o" in Lojban?

I see use of terms like "ZAhO" in English descriptions of Lojban = but this must be ungrammatical in Lojban (which is all lowercase except for= nonstandard stress, as far as I am aware)?

How are these discussed in Lojban?

Thanks,

Timotheos

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