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[2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z21si1580134itc.0.2016.07.14.13.00.03 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231; Received: by mail-oi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id j185so126644431oih.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.46.51 with SMTP id q48mr10157875otb.114.1468526403542; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:00:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.179.67 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Michael Turniansky Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:59:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Is it possible to use be directly followed by bei? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113df192a063cc05379df2c7 X-Original-Sender: Mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mturniansky@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 4899 --001a113df192a063cc05379df2c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think, from a strictly parsing perspective, I can see maybe one problem. How would you parse the following: broda be lo brode be bei lo brodi? Is that (broda be (lo brode be bei lo brodi)) or (broda be (lo brode be) bei brodi)? I think, by not having a definite end to the argument of a be, you open yourself open to questions like that. --gejyspa On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, 0x90 wrote: > Is it possible to use be directly followed by bei, indicating that the > sumti followed by be is omitted(=zo'e)? I know it is possible to do the > same with "be fi", but I think it sounds better. I think it should be > possible since the bei makes it obvious that the one between be and bai was > elided... 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=C2=A0 I think, from a strictly parsing perspective, I can= see maybe one problem.=C2=A0 How would you parse the following:

=C2=A0 broda be lo brode be bei lo brodi?

=C2=A0 Is that (broda be (lo brode be bei lo brodi)) or
(broda b= e (lo brode be) bei brodi)?

=C2=A0 I think, by not= having a definite end to the argument of a be, you open yourself open to q= uestions like that. =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0--gejyspa
=C2=A0

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 12:24 PM, 0x90 <emilwue= rfl@gmail.com> wrote:
Is it= possible to use be directly followed by bei, indicating that the sumti fol= lowed by be is omitted(=3Dzo'e)? I know it is possible to do the same w= ith "be fi", but I think it sounds better. I think it should be p= ossible since the bei makes it obvious that the one between be and bai was = elided... However, no of the parsers I tried accepted this.

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