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So, {la plipe cu citka le srasu.i ni'i bo la plipe cu pipyjalra}? I presume that is for the same reason as what selpa'i mentioned with his {.= i ki'u bo} suggestion? > (2) .e'o ko dragau mi.i ki'u bo mi na filta'a I will read more about bo :) > Moi, je dirais =C2=ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mot. > grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalra; I am obviously not French, but my understanding from Wikip=C3=A9dia was gra= sshopper =3D criquet =3D pipyjalra: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criquet https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauterelle_%28insecte%29 My pet Plipe is a Valanga irregularis, so I used criquet to mean grasshoppe= r, not cricket. I hope I was not wrong to do so. Thanks again. ________________________________ From: lojban@googlegroups.com on behalf of Pierre= Abbat Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2016 2:34 AM To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] djekarni (Diary): le karni fe la timoteios. On Monday, August 08, 2016 09:37:39 Timothy Lawrence wrote: > pe'u ko dragau mi ki'u la lojban.na verclibau mi > > Corrigez-moi, s'il vous pla=C3=AEt, parce que le fran=C3=A7ias n'est pas = ma langue > maternelle. fran=C3=A7ais > Please correct any of my language versions or suggest improvements - Engl= ish > is my native language so I hope I got that one right ;) > > > > fi'i ko spuda > > Vous =C3=AAtes invit=C3=A9s =C3=A0 r=C3=A9pondre. > > You are welcome to respond. > > > > coi le karni. > > i mi'e la timoteios.i mi xabju le sralygu'e. > > i ca'o le cabdei mi pu ctigau la plipe.i la plipe.cu dalpe'o mi. > i la plipe.cu citka le srasu ni'i la plipe.cu pipyjalra. Besides inserting "lo nu" as Bruno suggested, another way to fix the gramma= r is to connect the two bridi with "ini'ibo". > i mi ze'u ciska dei.i mi ba za'u re'u ciska. > > mu'o > > > > Cher journal, > > Je m'appelle Timotheos. J'habite en Australie. > > Aujourd'hui, j'ai nourri Plipe. Plipe est mon animal de compagnie. > Elle mange de l'herbe parce qu'elle est un criquet. Moi, je dirais =C2=ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mot. > Cela a pris beaucoup de temps =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire. Je vais =C3=A9crire enc= ore. > > > > Dear diary, > > I am Timotheos. I live in Australia. > > Today I fed Plipe. Plipe is my pet. > > She eats grass because she is a grasshopper. > It took me a very long time to write this. I will write again. "But you eat all these reptile birds that walk on four and have knees highe= r than their legs to jump." grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalra; but I d= on't like "jalra" used to refer to Orthoptera because they're not closely related. Th= e cockroaches and termites are now placed in the same order, so I have no problem with "mudyctijalra" (which could also refer to the wood-eating cockroach that isn't a termite), but the Orthoptera are outside the Dictyoptera. And what do we call katydids (which are not in the family Katydidae)? What sort of orthopteran does "xargolu" mean? Pierre -- loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. 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Thank you all for your help - at least uakci, selpa'i, ilmen, Pierre, Josh and others :)



> > i la plipe= .cu citka le srasu ni'i la plipe.cu pipyjalra.
>
> Besides inserting "lo nu" as Bruno suggested, another way to= fix the grammar is
> to connect the two bridi with "ini'ibo".

So, {la plipe cu cit= ka le srasu.i ni'i bo la plipe cu pipyjalra}?


I presume that is for the same reason as what selpa'i mentioned with his= {.i ki'u bo} su= ggestion?


>    (2) .= e'o ko dragau mi.i ki'u bo mi na filta'a


I will read more about bo :)



> Moi, je dirais =C2= =ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mot.


> grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalr= a;

I am obviously not French, but my understanding from Wikip=C3=A9dia was gra= sshopper =3D criquet =3D pipyjalra:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criquet
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauterelle_%= 28insecte%29

My pet Plipe is a Valanga irregularis, so I used criquet to m= ean grasshopper, not cricket. I hope I was not wrong to do so.

Thanks again.


From: lojban@googlegroups= .com <lojban@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Pierre Abbat <phma@bez= itopo.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2016 2:34 AM
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [lojban] djekarni (Diary): le karni fe la timoteios.
 
On Monday, August 08, 2016 09:37:39 Timothy Lawren= ce wrote:
> pe'u ko dragau mi ki'u la lojban.na verclibau mi
>
> Corrigez-moi, s'il vous pla=C3=AEt, parce que le fran=C3=A7ias n'est p= as ma langue
> maternelle.

fran=C3=A7ais

> Please correct any of my language versions or suggest improvements - E= nglish
> is my native language so I hope I got that one right ;)
>
>
>
> fi'i ko spuda
>
> Vous =C3=AAtes invit=C3=A9s =C3=A0 r=C3=A9pondre.
>
> You are welcome to respond.
>
>
>
> coi le karni.
>
> i mi'e la timoteios.i mi xabju le sralygu'e.
>
> i ca'o le cabdei mi pu ctigau la plipe.i la plipe.cu dalpe'o mi.
> i la plipe.cu citka le srasu ni'i la plipe.cu pipyjalra.

Besides inserting "lo nu" as Bruno suggested, another way to fix = the grammar is
to connect the two bridi with "ini'ibo".

> i mi ze'u ciska dei.i mi ba za'u re'u ciska.
>
> mu'o
>
>
>
> Cher journal,
>
> Je m'appelle Timotheos. J'habite en Australie.
>
> Aujourd'hui, j'ai nourri Plipe. Plipe est mon animal de compagnie.
> Elle mange de l'herbe parce qu'elle est un criquet.

Moi, je dirais =C2=ABgrillon=C2=BB, mais =C2=ABcriquet=C2=BB est un mot.
> Cela a pris beaucoup de temps =C3=A0 =C3=A9crire. Je vais =C3=A9crire = encore.
>
>
>
> Dear diary,
>
> I am Timotheos. I live in Australia.
>
> Today I fed Plipe. Plipe is my pet.
>
> She eats grass because she is a grasshopper.
> It took me a very long time to write this. I will write again.

"But you eat all these reptile birds that walk on four and have knees = higher
than their legs to jump."

grasshopper=3Dsauterelle=3Dpipyjalra, cricket=3Dgrillon=3Dsagjalra; but I d= on't like
"jalra" used to refer to Orthoptera because they're not closely r= elated. The
cockroaches and termites are now placed in the same order, so I have no problem with "mudyctijalra" (which could also refer to the wood-e= ating
cockroach that isn't a termite), but the Orthoptera are outside the
Dictyoptera. And what do we call katydids (which are not in the family
Katydidae)? What sort of orthopteran does "xargolu" mean?

Pierre
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