Received: from mail-qk0-f188.google.com ([209.85.220.188]:33018) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1baldf-00041N-KY for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:23:23 -0700 Received: by mail-qk0-f188.google.com with SMTP id t7sf15412703qkh.0 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:23:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=uVFbybSzRqyKTvqlWs4NTmKGkmhEqmxjvkbLfHAi6OM=; b=cr6FBb1VsMTpf8plDFVRsjPudFl1aEC8ZL1kGlhwUo+/WnrzyJ/efrYTx0DMbunzkQ MQDIDmGHs7vGLZJ9k2sUrXuNSEckj2uIORypcXg5WZ/3gCZt3Y/wqoz/XG+KvE6tADpi IceM7rVxxridJgtX1Te8FcYyPrnfJuaoiAucJzNforZQRn/wM1nkC37YlmrkZ1a+WhkP iQ2vEJusSG1VOQMcwk2lJAf+AXD2DWJpd/+8LDep3Wo6IJSdyOjCTKKQZzWUiDd52+FU NPadggg37BvY4Vr5vHoPhQljSYOseW9toW1CIAuszb/7Ugvp+9O55UrlxzWsJ8MLmFcC iB7g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=uVFbybSzRqyKTvqlWs4NTmKGkmhEqmxjvkbLfHAi6OM=; b=Iw7bGbvnjIcWk/nHQwNHYgvM0ytkns83bfdXWLQo8TMEI+Jr2K4nC1V2+gzRJIK1Jo l6BWh+ZeN6Q4HMy91dTtw3UEPeDV3bF27hO86dINISZbdGdG9jAJGZ2MTX2ZEM5NbWNU +XksEhdhboGefIo0RTSdMvCs+9Zzzj3d7nIPdXR4BAQeGxRVRQdglyrYPJv30BTh86Hw ivnwpcyBf7ZiV4it468JgFkYU/qi7IlVG9Bajm68J/11WD6zuyZ7mFC8Iv+MMdnuY+zb JFZZdCL+vLRYvTKo4CDocwIATikugZsaUyysnU2gKg+RBJpaHT3MbUKQDGCUuWfzEokD k6gQ== Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoous3iQe6z0Q327kBkk0XmfyM3DGYMjG8ACGM257oLh32NkZU3RE9680i5nbM7lqb9g== X-Received: by 10.157.14.238 with SMTP id 101mr592876otj.18.1471620192451; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:23:12 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.157.11.49 with SMTP id a46ls4028428ota.20.gmail; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:23:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.237.44.38 with SMTP id f35mr5967316qtd.18.1471620191787; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.236.76 with SMTP id k73msoih; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:13:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.157.39.200 with SMTP id c66mr587896otb.11.1471619638517; Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: collin.damskov@gmail.com To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <6535226a-8704-45f6-b125-c2ec80e02624@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Why do selbri imply place structure? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_608_1985159700.1471619638423" X-Original-Sender: collin.damskov@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 1050 ------=_Part_608_1985159700.1471619638423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know a whole lot about lojban, but it seems to me that it would be = difficult to learn simply because each selbri has its own implied place str= uctures. Is there no way to encode place structure by using a particle or = something without reducing grammatical ambiguity? Why do it this way inste= ad of something that doesn't require such intense memorization of place str= uctures? Am I missing something important here? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_608_1985159700.1471619638423--