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On 8/22/2016 1:27 PM, gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com wrote:
> Em segunda-feira, 22 de agosto de 2016 12:45:16 UTC+3, la uakci escreveu:
>
>     Nah, I'm doing it for 1 year and I feel very close to fluency. *sei
>     tolcumla*
>
>
> Nope. la uakci learnt it in just 4 months to kinda fluency (vague term
> but who asks for standardized test?). Proved by logs.

Nick Nicolas in 1991 spent only a weekend reading everything we had then 
(long before CLL was written), and was writing better translations than 
anyone else up to that point almost immediately.  He wasn't yet 
"fluent", but I suspect that many of his translations still stand up 25 
years later (at least if one corrects for the rafsi changes, since most 
of those translations predate the rafsi reassignment and other 
baselining efforts in the 1992-1994 timeframe.

Nick had considerable experience in learning languages, which certainly 
made a difference.  But the bottom line is that young kids learn 
languages almost automatically; adults have to work at it.  But if you 
do work at it, and are willing to accept a period of making lots of 
mistakes and learning from them, pretty much anyone can gain competency.

(I myself am NOT a good language learner, and will probably never speak 
Lojban fluently - I'm past 60 years old - but I still was able to muddle 
through a conversation and could translate a text with word lookup 
capability handy (but when I was actively conversing, I generally did 
NOT stop to look up gismu - I made mistakes and learned from people 
failing to understand me.)

lojbab

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