Received: from mail-ua0-f183.google.com ([209.85.217.183]:32985) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cQDnO-0000s4-4u for lojban-beginners-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:46:06 -0800 Received: by mail-ua0-f183.google.com with SMTP id 96sf218091737uaq.0 for ; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:46:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20161025; h=sender:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=kFA1LZI/UEGGTIOWS4lxn6rTTI6JyFHr2Xm1D9S15Ng=; b=Wqy/37XhF/ArPmKsLs3I//xQe5DIyO45VNFp5VA41tH6sCKtlylyFY+mb3Vs3tQR4K qWqWZ27uSaI0zzxoDKgZXw79XofI+ugrBCC1Fl9c4n13iFxUJ/aOBM4JJbbeechQEfGP s6rVMG1kd9XTVMpKEBEGdli09ndpt8Y7pKxHHth/IcfNhC1M0PHexjcmw8Ouf90nuyLR DfC5Zvj6WCFeitfyjYCZRNIgL6/8xc+KMB+MWxewO4gnr6CLoaWEVHfcDz0aFfSrD+tu 7PTokjZY5Nl83Cars+6SZSgfTb/0Pqkit9bXhut903ueRAt0alKozoMN61BhoOwql1sz Fdww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=sender:x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=kFA1LZI/UEGGTIOWS4lxn6rTTI6JyFHr2Xm1D9S15Ng=; b=NGeHM10sKM5ModXsTLFmXiyjH/EyG4rI/7/X5ZlKDv71dejvxOdEAk5rj2zXuXnkBM uFctBD2kziWxqtTf/AemVG6/RNypc+IjNffm10H6TT52QOIkPoE9KXyZozHjMvj3KIM0 KYa38CQmWTx9qvAfPkOOMyaQ/oa2waAd6xZV2J/7C2VXF8R1TDG+HNePhnpgi295NnuV bYdNuJeWRZdYhGUkMvXyBs0C0TO6SjkuXvOSEbAe4GGIOKAONUJHsBXmtIHxL042SoF/ tgLe0+kxbIIb7S0NE5sYrBD4I43cuLvSLjgak9xES9fWRkHFQn+gdtqnpoiPHBxr/0MS O2fw== Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKB+A48WAKi/O7b7xx7NO/lr/5/p7kpk2kL2YhEjka8gDdAU5hFF+kAoBJ5lubRdQ== X-Received: by 10.157.48.39 with SMTP id d36mr691927otc.1.1483883155691; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:45:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.157.4.76 with SMTP id 70ls4818208otc.32.gmail; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:45:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.13.204.75 with SMTP id o72mr2031704ywd.91.1483883155173; Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:45:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.237.74 with SMTP id l71msoih; Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:58:26 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.6.77 with SMTP id 71mr604638otn.13.1483819105976; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) From: r.d.gorbunov@gmail.com To: Lojban Beginners Message-Id: <29d65cb2-bf7b-4b91-94bc-5ce24cb056c6@googlegroups.com> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?=5Blojban=2Dbeginners=5D_How_to_say_=22I_see_someone_talking?= =?UTF-8?Q?_to_you=22=3F_Is_=22be=E2=80=93bei=E2=80=93be=27o=22_construction_good_for_that=3F?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_452_932626938.1483819105694" X-Original-Sender: r.d.gorbunov@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Content-Length: 3505 ------=_Part_452_932626938.1483819105694 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_453_1200048310.1483819105694" ------=_Part_453_1200048310.1483819105694 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, I would like to say the following: "I see someone talking to you." As far as I understand, ".i mi viska le tavla" means "I see a talker" or,= =20 in other words, "I see someone talking". But I want to say a bit more. I=20 want to specify that talking is "to you". So, I guess I need to use the=20 "be=E2=80=93bei=E2=80=93be'o" construction and I am not sure about that sin= ce here=20 https://lojban.github.io/cll/5/7/ this construction is used to "extend" one= =20 of the gismu from a tanru and I want to extend a sumti. In general I want to be able to say things like: (1) "I see a man reading a= =20 book", (2) "The man knows a dog walking from home". Is "be=E2=80=93bei=E2= =80=93be'o" gives=20 a way to say these sentences or I need to use something else? Thank you, Roman --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_453_1200048310.1483819105694 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

I would like to= say the following: "I see someone talking to you."
As far as I understand, =C2=A0".i mi viska le tavla" = means "I see a talker" or, in other words, "I see someone ta= lking". But I want to say a bit more. I want to specify that talking i= s "to you". So, I guess I need to use the "be=E2=80=93bei=E2= =80=93be'o" construction and I am not sure about that since here h= ttps://lojban.github.io/cll/5/7/ this construction is used to "extend&= quot; one of the gismu from a tanru and I want to extend a sumti.

In general I want to be able to say things like: (1) "= I see a man reading a book", (2) "The man knows a dog walking fro= m home". Is "be=E2=80=93bei=E2=80=93be'o" gives a way to= say these sentences or I need to use something else?

<= div>Thank you,
Roman

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